Ok. I'm convinced I have the solution to the countrys woes. It came to me in a flash of light! Ok maybe while I was sleeping. Ok I was drowsing off writing a grant application.
anyway the point is...
...the public is pissed off because MPs and ministers are being paid so much, yet they keep talking like the country belongs to them, right? (not my words. just general summary of feedback from the ground)
So here's what we need to do. Have a course for Politicians to learn how to be Politically correct.
Hold refreshers every three years, just like Advanced Cardiac Life Support. Minus the sweaty thrusting action.
Insert generic lectures by inspirational generic speakers - that's all standard in current PR consultancy firms anyway.
BUT here's the cracker.
At the end of the course hold an aptitude test in MCQ format. 1000 questions
Each wrong answer minus 1/100th of monthly salary.
Negative marking - so can end up paying for chance to stay on in government if aptitude is too poor on paper.
***********************************SAMPLE**********************
Political Aptitude Paper (PAP)
You have three (3) hours to complete this examination
Please read all questions carefully before you answer them.
This examination is negatively marked.
1) You are holding a Meet the People Session. (MPS) Is your priority :
a) to make your voice heard to as many people in as short a time possible since this will save as many pagans as possible
b) to physically cover as much ground as possible since unwalked ground is unwon ground
c) to tell as many people not to vote for the opposition as possible, for their salvation
d) to listen to your constituents' concerns, show them a bit of empathy, and resolve their problems / refer them on to someone who can since they are people who, like you, have real problems and feelings too
e) to correct their misconceptions that are leading them to think they have problems, since in truth their petty problems pale in comparison to the greater problems of state and governance
2) You are talking to a consituent at an MPS. He is courteous and polite, but keeps asking why he should vote for you. Do you
a) for his, and the greater good, repeatedly tell him not to be foolish and vote opposition
b) tell him to read the pamphlet since you are far too busy a man to talk to someone like him
c) deal with the obviously obstructive dissentor with necessary force
d) tell him your dreams, plans and aspirations for improving your constituency, should you win it, for the sake of the people you will be governing / representing in government.
3) You are asked during an interview what single policy you would change, if you had the power to. do you
a) ponder the question before answering from the heart, even at the potential cost to your party's line
b) recognise that answering from the heart is immature and potentially damaging to the greater good, and tactfully find a way to acknowledge the validity of the question without actually answering it
c) state that you have no opinion, and everything is as it always was and always will be, hunky dorey, because the Good Guys are on the throne
d) Throw your hands up in the air, stamp your feet and acknowledge that at this point you're at a loss for words
4) There is a flood. Many expensive cars drown to death in basement carparks. Hundreds of handbags bite the dust. As the Minister for Environment and Water Resources, you tell the public
a) this kind of thing only happens once very fifty years (in other words, it's not your fault, and nothing more needs to be done)
b) this is the will of God
c) there was no flood
d) you will do everything in your power to prevent this from happening again, and spell out your game plan to the public, including projected expenditure and target timelines
5) There is another flood, despite the works your contracters put in. You tell the public
a) it is the contracters fault
b) this is the will of God
c) there was no flood
d) you shoulder all responsibility for your failure to achieve your objectives, and offer to resign dependent on the will of your prime minister, and the public.
6) A terrorist escapes from an ultra-high security facility, putting the lives of innocents at stake not just in your country, but everywhere in the world. Police efforts to locate the terrorist fail after he cunningly hides in the last place anyone expected - at his brother's place, and not in the jungle which is where all self-respecting terrorists belong. As the Deputy Prime Minister the public turns to you for an explanation. You
a) blame the police for their incompetence, since they let the guy escape, and obviously didnt manage to catch him before he snuck from the jungle to his brother's place
b) order all jungles to be redeveloped into HDB blocks to prevent this happening again
c) say that this only happens once in fifty years
d) acknowledge your responsibility for a failing of a systems process which you had overlooked, and seek to redress it without personally blaming specific individuals in that process. Ask for forgiveness for endangering the world at large, and a chance to recapture the criminal to set right what has gone wrong.
7) A pimply faced teenager challenges your authority at a public event, asking why his estate is not getting upgraded unlike the one across the road. There has been growing unhappiness on the ground about what the public perceives as strongarm pork barrel politics. You
a) explain that this is the fault of the residents for daring to vote unwisely.
b) explain that limited resources means that only the worthy receive upgrading
c) take careful note of who this subversive element is
d) state that perhaps change may be on the horizon after due reconsideration, and that resources are adequate for the government to serve all its citizens at the same time, without prejudice.
8) After you answer a to c in the previous question, the pimply faced teenager asks you why then he cannot be exempt from national service, if withdrawal of benefits is the result of his freedom of choice, then so too should his contribution to society be diminished. You
a) order him to be investigated for tax fraud when he comes of age
b) order his family to be investigated for tax fraud
c) order him shot. discreetly.
d) explain that you acknowledge his frustration and empathise with his anger, but that one day when he grows up that anger will fade. Explain that national service - if certain people are allowed to shirk it - where does it end? Sliding down this slippery slope could lead to eventual abolition of national service, without which the country would have to rely on a highly trained, small professional volunteer army for defence.
9) It is a time of great angst and gnashing of teeth (General Elections). There are loud angry noises all over the internet - about problems with public housing, homelessness, unemployment, poverty, influx of foreigners and high ministerial pay. Your team's strategy thus far has been to ignore the noise, since they believe that it is a vocal minority of dissenters and disenchanted who do not pose a real threat. However, an internal committee is convened and comes to a different conclusion - that the numbers are dynamic, and changing by the day, and the tide is turning against you. Do you
a) ignore the advice of the internal committee and continue to tell the public your team has been, and will continue to be stellar and godlike
b) "deal" with the opposition, since they are the root of the evil and they, and not your own team are the cause for the public's faith in you being undermined. Ridicule their opinions/proposals, and cast aspersions to their personal and/or professional integrity. When this fails, consider pulling their hair, or calling them gay.
c) suppress media coverage of homelessness, unemployment, poverty, and high pay. Outlaw foreign media agencies who run stories on poor people forced to live in tents, and publically denounce the tent-dwellers (after naming and shaming them) as frauds because one of their sixteen brothers has a proper house, meaning they can by extension, since money flows like water from family member to family member, afford more than a tent. Consider arresting the tent-dwellers for vagrancy. Set an example to the public. As for ministerial pay, play up the media, and triumphantly announce that it is precisely because of uncontestable "talent', and to prevent corruption and dishonesty setting in that the ministers must be paid the highest salaries in... the entire world, and perhaps the known universe.
d) track every single IP of every negative comment posted, and consider arresting all the subversives. Also, set up a whole bunch of "third-party" (of the pop-up overnight variety) observer sites with the sole agenda of showing the public that the most positive, and least negative online comments are going to your party, and that your largest threat, the Whatever Party has the least online popularity - since this will help sway public opinion back in your favour. (assuming anyone actually looks at these third party sites)
e) take the internal committee's analysis in to account, and humbly apologize to the public for not doing well enough, and promise to deliver in the future.
10) the public has voted you back into power, with a roughly 60% majority - the poorest show of support in four decades. Do you
a) declare a clear mandate of support, come to believe it yourself, and rest easy on your laurels
b) arrest the opposition so that they won't be a threat next elections (under the charges of XXXism)
c) arrest the public who showed support for the opposition, and tell the rest that they are going to repent for the next five years
d) start widespread reforms, reshuffle your cabinet and lose the "dead wood", and try to win back public support; acknowledge the opposition as worthy opponents, and seek to work as allies with them in parliament, with a modicum of civility - till the next elections anyway - for the greater good of the country. Consider abolishment of the ISA, and pardon of all previous political exiles under the previous administration who have ironically been transformed into martyrs due to someone's oversight.
For a bonus $5,000; or a penalty of $10,000 per month :
11) a certain once omnipotent and now slightly demented but still very prominent political figure threatens the public that it will have five years to repent if it votes opposition, and in the aftermath of your close victory loudly proclaims that the people do not know how to be grateful to HIM for all HE has done for the worthless ingrates. You
a) retire him
b) encourage him to retire
c) distance yourself from him publically, by saying, well, I am not He, and He is not Me, and well he says these things, doesn't mean I have to listen to him. even if he's my daddy
d) keep him nice and warm at home, and make sure he has lots of walkies and is surrounded by lots of people who make him feel happy, since in all honesty, he has about five years left - and they shouldn't be wasted being angry and ranting at the world at large anymore.
Sunday, May 29, 2011
Stupid Referrals series. Episode #1
"XX year old male... admitted for septic total knee replacement... aspirated... then treated with washout...."
yawn. twiddle thumbs. wait for the punchline, don't get cross...
"... anemia, transfused, white cell count not coming down... still anemic..."
Deep breath. Let's be nice, it's Sunday. Don't actually say Get to the point, just smile and wave boys...
"... transfused... still anemic..."
any minute now, wait for the money shot...
"And today we did a PR and there was melaena!"
Wow. That only took all of three minutes.
"Ok so what have you done for the patient?"
"We stopped the aspirin and clopidogrel!"
"ok-ay. Why is the patient on aspirin and clopidogrel?"
"Oh he had a heart attack three days ago!"
"... I. See. Is he on omeprazole?"
"Yes! 40 mg twice a day!"
"IV or oral."
"Oral!"
roll eyes.
"Is he in high dependency?"
"... do you... want me... to put him in High-D?"
"No. No. it's all right. I'm coming to see him myself."
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yawn. twiddle thumbs. wait for the punchline, don't get cross...
"... anemia, transfused, white cell count not coming down... still anemic..."
Deep breath. Let's be nice, it's Sunday. Don't actually say Get to the point, just smile and wave boys...
"... transfused... still anemic..."
any minute now, wait for the money shot...
"And today we did a PR and there was melaena!"
Wow. That only took all of three minutes.
"Ok so what have you done for the patient?"
"We stopped the aspirin and clopidogrel!"
"ok-ay. Why is the patient on aspirin and clopidogrel?"
"Oh he had a heart attack three days ago!"
"... I. See. Is he on omeprazole?"
"Yes! 40 mg twice a day!"
"IV or oral."
"Oral!"
roll eyes.
"Is he in high dependency?"
"... do you... want me... to put him in High-D?"
"No. No. it's all right. I'm coming to see him myself."
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Friday, May 27, 2011
Dispell Magic
Lim Wee Kiak, as an afterthought on facebook :
"Minister's pay issue is a sensitive one. There must be a balance. After all, capable individuals who are willing to come forward to serve should not do so because of pay and perks," he replied to a user's question about his quote.
He added, "On the other hand, they do have families and dependents and need to consider for retirement, etc."
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Lim wee Kiak, as an after-afterthought after no doubt getting bitch-slapped for his
"poor ministers need monies to feed their starving families and retire humbly to that little country cottage" remark:
UPDATE
Member of Parliament Lim Wee Kiak of the Nee Soon group representation constituency has apologised for his remarks linking ministerial pay with the "dignity" of politicians.
In a note on his Facebook page on Friday, MP Lim said he would like to clarify the comments he made to Lianhe Zaobao and reproduced in LianheWanBao. The comments had been quickly slammed by netizens.
He had been quoted by the Chinese paper last week as saying, "If the annual salary of the Minister of Information, Communication and Arts is only $500,000, it may pose some problems when he discuss policies with media CEOs who earn millions of dollars because they need not listen to the minister's ideas and proposals. Hence, a reasonable payout will help to maintain a bit of dignity."
In his Facebook note, the MP said, "I withdraw those remarks and apologise for making them. Dignity cannot be and must not be measured purely in monetary terms."
He said he agreed that the example he gave and his comment that there may be loss of face if the minister's salary is low "is inappropriate and incorrect".
"Minister's pay issue is a sensitive one. There must be a balance. After all, capable individuals who are willing to come forward to serve should not do so because of pay and perks," he replied to a user's question about his quote.
He added, "On the other hand, they do have families and dependents and need to consider for retirement, etc."
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Lim wee Kiak, as an after-afterthought after no doubt getting bitch-slapped for his
"poor ministers need monies to feed their starving families and retire humbly to that little country cottage" remark:
UPDATE
Member of Parliament Lim Wee Kiak of the Nee Soon group representation constituency has apologised for his remarks linking ministerial pay with the "dignity" of politicians.
In a note on his Facebook page on Friday, MP Lim said he would like to clarify the comments he made to Lianhe Zaobao and reproduced in LianheWanBao. The comments had been quickly slammed by netizens.
He had been quoted by the Chinese paper last week as saying, "If the annual salary of the Minister of Information, Communication and Arts is only $500,000, it may pose some problems when he discuss policies with media CEOs who earn millions of dollars because they need not listen to the minister's ideas and proposals. Hence, a reasonable payout will help to maintain a bit of dignity."
In his Facebook note, the MP said, "I withdraw those remarks and apologise for making them. Dignity cannot be and must not be measured purely in monetary terms."
He said he agreed that the example he gave and his comment that there may be loss of face if the minister's salary is low "is inappropriate and incorrect".
The Wonderful Wizards of Crock
I read Lim Wee Kiak's opinion that ministers must be paid in the millions because otherwise they will not be on an even footing with CEOs when they talk to them, and it hit me why the PAP is floundering.
Let's not mince words. The PAP is a sinking ship.
And it's retards like Lim Wee Kiak who are poking holes in it.
GE2011 will forever be remembered by me - not because of the outcome, or the oppositions big GRC win, or because they failed to sweep the PAP out of power. I'm realistic - I figured the result would be much as it was.
It will be remembered by me because so, so many of the PAP candidates shoved their feet so far up their arses they came out their mouths. Literally. It was beginning to look scripted - you could almost predict who was going to say what breathtakingly insensitive thing next.
And when the public reacted with anger, somewhere along the way someone up there said hang on, if we want to stay alive we'd better sing a different tune. Someone up there remembered that the public WAS a threat to the continued existence of the PAP - that the disaffected were increasing by the day -- and suddenly the PAP was singing a tune of contrition and reconciliation. Who knows what might have happened if they hadn't?
Only the problem is - even as the Captain (or rather Brigadier General) placates us - yes, placates, as poor Vikram had to do with his unholy water and the unwashed hoipolloi trick - his minions are continuing to poke holes in his ship.
The PAP's greatest fear is anarchy - that the disaffected will take over because they are more vocal; that they will lead the lambs into rebellion.
I tell you this - the PAP should fear itself.
The problem isn't the disenchanted. The problem is the disenchanTERS. These fuckwits who say the stupidest thing in public - things that are clearly NOT the party stand - things that pop into their heads and out their mouths. Stupid, stupid things bound to make the disgruntled public angry.
Lim Wee Kiak - whoever he is - may be a good MP. I haven't got a clue - I'd never heard of him till today. He may serve his people diligently, and be the best representative of the people this side of the galaxy. He may actually justify his $15,000 a month salary.
I honestly don't care right now. I think people like him have to go. He wasn't quoted out of context - no context could have made that quote right.
"If the annual salary of the Minister of Information, Communication and Arts is only $500,000, it may pose some problems when he discuss policies with media CEOs who earn millions of dollars because they need not listen to the minister's ideas and proposals. Hence, a reasonable payout will help to maintain a bit of dignity,"
A Big part of being in politics is knowing when to shut up - if you have nothing good to say, then for f***s sakes don't say it.
Why are the people so upset? It's because our politicians don't bleeding know how to BEHAVE like politicians. They behave just like the rest of us - thoughtlessly, insensitively - and they just can't empathize with other people. The Opposition said it time and again - the PAP has lost touch with the people.
I put forth that (some of) the PAP has lost touch with EVERYONE - not just the people. They've lost touch with all but their own. If a PAP politician had said something like that to a colleague from another country, I think that politician would have been appalled. And probably amused at his third-world, second-rate colleague -- but he/she would have SAID all the right things... things that didn't make the caveman next to him hate him. And didn't give the reporters a field day sowing hate to the masses. Because that's what politicians DO.
What the PAP desperately needs to do right now is to start shaking down the team. Tell those with big mouths to buck up or hit the road. Tell them that their mouths do NOT belong to them - and that there are some battles the PAP can win on its own merits without the need for halfwit lackeys to step up to the bat and turn public opinion against the mothership. BG Lee was actually making good progress with the public until this fool spoke up... now suddenly everything's looking a little grey again - what good is an enlightened leader if his minions are neanderthals? Or worse still, what if the good General is just saying things to make the public happy, and these are the real words being bandied around behind closed doors?? -- These are the things the public are thinking right now, thanks to this one man's thoughtlessness.
Dignity, indeed.
Dignity is staying true to your principles, and morals - unwaveringly, in the face of persecution. In the face of poverty. In the face of pulic ridicule. Martyrs die with dignity.
Dignity is NOT receiving a payout for doing something dirty. Judas Iscariot will - and MUST never be remembered as a dignified man.
******
Maybe, just maybe - all these MPs and ministers who keep tripping the PAP up are plants. Maybe they've been put there by the opposition, to explode the party from the inside. Just like Tin Pei Ling?
******
So it seems it's Dr Lim Wee Kiak and he's an eye surgeon.
WTF is the PAP doing with all these surgeons?? We obviously have problems with EQ. You want a thinking, caring doctor with brains and tact, you jolly well get a physician on your team!
Let's not mince words. The PAP is a sinking ship.
And it's retards like Lim Wee Kiak who are poking holes in it.
GE2011 will forever be remembered by me - not because of the outcome, or the oppositions big GRC win, or because they failed to sweep the PAP out of power. I'm realistic - I figured the result would be much as it was.
It will be remembered by me because so, so many of the PAP candidates shoved their feet so far up their arses they came out their mouths. Literally. It was beginning to look scripted - you could almost predict who was going to say what breathtakingly insensitive thing next.
And when the public reacted with anger, somewhere along the way someone up there said hang on, if we want to stay alive we'd better sing a different tune. Someone up there remembered that the public WAS a threat to the continued existence of the PAP - that the disaffected were increasing by the day -- and suddenly the PAP was singing a tune of contrition and reconciliation. Who knows what might have happened if they hadn't?
Only the problem is - even as the Captain (or rather Brigadier General) placates us - yes, placates, as poor Vikram had to do with his unholy water and the unwashed hoipolloi trick - his minions are continuing to poke holes in his ship.
The PAP's greatest fear is anarchy - that the disaffected will take over because they are more vocal; that they will lead the lambs into rebellion.
I tell you this - the PAP should fear itself.
The problem isn't the disenchanted. The problem is the disenchanTERS. These fuckwits who say the stupidest thing in public - things that are clearly NOT the party stand - things that pop into their heads and out their mouths. Stupid, stupid things bound to make the disgruntled public angry.
Lim Wee Kiak - whoever he is - may be a good MP. I haven't got a clue - I'd never heard of him till today. He may serve his people diligently, and be the best representative of the people this side of the galaxy. He may actually justify his $15,000 a month salary.
I honestly don't care right now. I think people like him have to go. He wasn't quoted out of context - no context could have made that quote right.
"If the annual salary of the Minister of Information, Communication and Arts is only $500,000, it may pose some problems when he discuss policies with media CEOs who earn millions of dollars because they need not listen to the minister's ideas and proposals. Hence, a reasonable payout will help to maintain a bit of dignity,"
A Big part of being in politics is knowing when to shut up - if you have nothing good to say, then for f***s sakes don't say it.
Why are the people so upset? It's because our politicians don't bleeding know how to BEHAVE like politicians. They behave just like the rest of us - thoughtlessly, insensitively - and they just can't empathize with other people. The Opposition said it time and again - the PAP has lost touch with the people.
I put forth that (some of) the PAP has lost touch with EVERYONE - not just the people. They've lost touch with all but their own. If a PAP politician had said something like that to a colleague from another country, I think that politician would have been appalled. And probably amused at his third-world, second-rate colleague -- but he/she would have SAID all the right things... things that didn't make the caveman next to him hate him. And didn't give the reporters a field day sowing hate to the masses. Because that's what politicians DO.
What the PAP desperately needs to do right now is to start shaking down the team. Tell those with big mouths to buck up or hit the road. Tell them that their mouths do NOT belong to them - and that there are some battles the PAP can win on its own merits without the need for halfwit lackeys to step up to the bat and turn public opinion against the mothership. BG Lee was actually making good progress with the public until this fool spoke up... now suddenly everything's looking a little grey again - what good is an enlightened leader if his minions are neanderthals? Or worse still, what if the good General is just saying things to make the public happy, and these are the real words being bandied around behind closed doors?? -- These are the things the public are thinking right now, thanks to this one man's thoughtlessness.
Dignity, indeed.
Dignity is staying true to your principles, and morals - unwaveringly, in the face of persecution. In the face of poverty. In the face of pulic ridicule. Martyrs die with dignity.
Dignity is NOT receiving a payout for doing something dirty. Judas Iscariot will - and MUST never be remembered as a dignified man.
******
Maybe, just maybe - all these MPs and ministers who keep tripping the PAP up are plants. Maybe they've been put there by the opposition, to explode the party from the inside. Just like Tin Pei Ling?
******
So it seems it's Dr Lim Wee Kiak and he's an eye surgeon.
WTF is the PAP doing with all these surgeons?? We obviously have problems with EQ. You want a thinking, caring doctor with brains and tact, you jolly well get a physician on your team!
The Dr is In
I've been wondering for the longest time...
... what happens to the doctor-doctors who make it into parliament?
I'd always assumed that the "Drs" were just honorifics. Two minutes of googling...
... and it turns out :
Dr Ng Eng Hen. Ex - consultant surgical oncologist. Now - Minister for Defence
Dr Vivian Balakrishnan. Ex- consultant opthalmologist. Now - Minister for Environment and Water Resources
The doctorates :
Dr Amy Khor Lean Suan - PhD in Land Management. Non medical. Now a minister of state.
Dr Mohamad Maliki Bin Osman - PhD in... dunno what. Non medical. Now a senior parliamentary secretary.
So... the two medically trained guys are heading up Defence, and Environment/Water Resources.
I wonder who's heading health?
Gan Kim Yong. Masters in Engineering (Cambridge). Now Minister for Health.
And what happens to our military men?
MG (NS) Chan Chun Sing – Acting Minister for Community Development, Youth and Sports, Minister of State for Ministry of Information, Communications and the Arts
BG (NS) Tan Chuan-Jin – Ministry of National Development and Ministry of Manpower
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Ok. Ok. Hold up. This is getting too much for my simple mind to comprehend.
So we have an engineer in charge of healthcare, a doctor in charge of defence, and a Major General in charge of God knows What.
We have another doctor in charge of the Environment, and a Brigadeer General in charge of National Development.
Deep breath.
What's going on? Musical chairs? Is it me or are we intentionally sticking people into places as familiar to them as an elephant's behind? Isn't this how cockups are GUARANTEED?
Ok. I'm indubitably going to find out that it was intentional all along. There's some rule that I, in my gargauntum, gobsmacked Layman's ignorance am not aware of, that people mustn't be allowed to do what they know.
Well. Frankly, if it was up to me, I'd put a general in charge of defence, a doctor in charge of healthcare, and an engineer in charge of building the country. Because I want the best people for the job. And because I acknowledge that these highly touted and near-venerated Ministers with their Godlike salaries are only people. They are ORDINARY people. Just like you and I. Except that they have talents - unlike most of us - talents in doing the things they know. Experience - a wealth of experience - in the lives they used to lead. Valuable experience that should be tapped, to hone the country into that elusive first-world reality that has thus far eluded us. Opinions on how things should have but weren't being done, in the fields they knew well.
You could argue that it's bringing a fresh-perspective to things, yes. A soldier in charge of the defence will just soldier on, yes.
But frankly all we're doing is making people learn on the job. Isn't that what all of us were so incensed with, with respect to Ms Tin Pei Ling?
Isn't the PAP all about groundwork, and elbow grease, working working working to know the ground?
Well, the soldier ALREADY knows the other soldiers in the army he left behind. The doctor ALREADY knows the doctors in the system he departed. The engineer knows... err.. geometry.
Why waste all that knowledge dumping them in the deep end and patting them on the back for their obvious intellect - you'll adapt me boy, you'll be fine, go do us proud! - when we could put them somewhere familiar - and see how much FURTHER they can go?
I mean, would you put a brain surgeon in charge of transport?
Say, who's in charge of transport, anyway?
Liu Tuck Yew - Graduate in Chemistry from Cambridge University, ex Rear Admiral in the Singapore Navy (we have a navy? We have an Admiral?? wah.) - Transport Minister.
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Lui Tuck Yew Shocks a Citizen During His Walkabout
I saw this on my Facebook. The story seems to be getting a lot of attention in cyberspace. It's all about a Moulmein resident's unpleasant encounter with PAP candidate Lui Tuck Yew.
Dear Friends
I am forwarding you an email I sent to the incumbent MP for Moulmein, Mr Lui Tuck Yew, and his subsequent reply. (They are reversed in order below). I have only deleted my name/addresses and Mr Lui's address for the sake of privacy in the event that you may wish to forward this to your own friends. I trust you will not use this email to "flame" (hope I used the term correctly), but instead to educate and perhaps generate informed discussion.
I am sending my friends this because I feel that it is important that you hear what happened to me personally, and how Mr Lui reacted to me during what I thought was a simple, agreeable conversation. Those of you who know me well know that I do not go around deliberately antagonising people or creating trouble of any kind. So the flow of the conversation that took place left me shocked, and I must admit, sad. Mr Lui explains his "disengagement" in his reply attached below. I will leave you to read the whole story and the two emails and then come to your own conclusions.
First, the background to this whole incident.
I have been a resident of Moulmein my whole life, and not once have I ever had the chance or privilege to vote. So you can imagine how excited I was when I realised that there may be a strong possibility that Moulmein would be contested this time round. Prior to Mr Lui being the walkover MP, our MP was Mr Khaw Boon Wan. If Mr Khaw had still been our MP, I would most likely have voted for him as Mr Khaw had made his presence felt strongly in Moulmein, even at a social level, and it had always been a very reassuring presence. Mr Lui, on the other hand, has not had much of a presence.
So, on a recent walkabout in Moulmein, I happened to have what I thought at the time, was the privilege, to meet Mr Lui and get to know him better. He started off very friendly and handed me the Moulmein newsletter. He asked how long I'd been living here, and I let him know that I have been in Moulmein my whole life, and that this was the first time I may get a chance to vote. His immediate reaction was, "Yes, blame the Opposition! I don't know what they ..." and he went on to say something more which I couldn't hear because my brain was trying to process the fact that he had actually openly said, "Blame the Opposition" in a serious tone, laced with annoyance. He might have sensed my confusion (I'm guessing here). I then changed topic and pointed out to him that I had felt Mr Khaw's presence much more than his, and I requested for him to let me hear some of what he had done for Moulmein.
He told me to refer to the newsletter. I then said that I really wanted to hear from him, and not read what other people (ie his grassroots team) had created. He immediately started listing all the playgrounds they had done up (there was always the word "We") and spoke about a unique-to-Moulmein schools programme, which I liked very much. I interrupted him a few times to clarify a few things he had said.
I next asked him to let me know why I should vote for him. (I'm serious about voting, and I have thought this through so carefully. I told myself that no matter what, it was my duty to try and understand each candidate and approach them one-to-one before I cast my vote. And it was, and still is, my resolve to ask each candidate this question - why I should vote for them.)
I'm now going to recount the dialogue word-for-word as it is still clearly playing itself over and over in my head:
Me: Could you please tell me why I should vote for you?
Mr Lui: You should NOT vote for the Opposition because they ...
Me: The Opposition? No, I want to know about you. Please tell me why I should vote for you.
Mr Lui: You should vote for the PAP because we ....
Me: The PAP? No, no. I'm not interested in the PAP or the Opposition. I'm interested to know about you. Why should I vote for you?
At this point, Mr Lui shot me a look of pure anger, waved his hand about in the air, declaring, "We could spend all night talking about me!", pointed to the newsletter and snapped, "It's all in the the newsletter!" He then swung round and stormed off.
I remember standing there, in total shock, wondering what on earth I had done wrong to deserve such an intense reaction. I watched as he couldn't get beyond two or three steps as he was stopped by someone else wanting to meet him. I watched as he switched on his smile, said a few polite words, thrust the newsletter into her hand and disappeared, still angered. (Those who know me well, know I did my MA in nonverbal language, and know how accurate I am with "vibes".) I watched as his posse scurried after him, not one of them daring and/or caring to turn to look at me or say goodbye, not one of them.
I had asked a simple question. I was not expecting rocket science for an answer or any deep psychological profile to be shared. Just a simple answer from the heart would have sufficed, or even a more measured response. But not anger, never in a million years would I have thought anyone would have, or could have, responded to my simple question with anger.
And I feel sad.
Sad that after all these years, what people have been saying has finally been proven true to my face, literally.
I then turned to the Moulmein newsletter, ploughed through it in the hope that perhaps there was a lot about Mr Lui in the newsletter. No, there wasn't. Not a thing. Instead, I was left very impressed with the Moulmein Citizens Consultative Committee, the various Neighbourhood Committees and the Residents' Committees - all of which I am sure will not disappear if there is a change in leadership.
So I sat down, and penned an email, which I have since sent, to Mr Lui. I chose to be polite and measured in the email, and not angry nor accusatory because to be angry would have been to stoop to Mr Lui's response towards me, and that would not do anyone any good. If he's going to continue as Minister (and it does look like he's on the PAP fast-track if he's voted back in), then really, he needs to hear, he needs to understand, he needs to be educated. And he needs to learn how to answer simple, non-threatening questions!
It's such an irony that prior to the dissolution of Parliament, he was the Minister for Information, Communications and the Arts.
You'll find the email below, and Mr Lui's response (in reverse order), which I just received a short while ago.
If you should choose to share my experience with any of your friends who need or would wish to read this, I request that you not include my email address and name.
Love and hugs everyone.
-
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Tuck Yew LUI (MICA)
Date: 22 April 2011 16:53
Subject: Re: Moulmein Walkabout
To:
Dear - ,
i am sure this may not apply to you given that you have now taken the trouble to write this note but unfortunately I encounter some people whose minds are made up and whose main intent seem to be to slow us down in our outreach. And nothing, we say, no explanation we give whether to do with cost of living, etc will ever be good enough.
The pragmatic way to deal with this is simply to disengage at an opportune moment.
Dont worry, it didnt leave a sour note with me nor a poor impression of you.
Regards,
Lui Tuck Yew
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 21, 2011, at 10:18 PM, "-" wrote:
> Dear Mr Lui,
>
> We met briefly at the walkabout at xxxxxxxxxx last evening. Unfortunately, I seem to have upset and angered you which was not my intention at all.
>
> If I appeared rude or aggressive in any way, then I apologise. I don't usually take too well to answers that are off-tangent, they tend to confuse me, and I always re-direct answers back to my original question which often means that I can appear too direct or clinical and therefore somewhat aggressive. As a teacher by training, I have always emphasised the importance and merits of listening carefully and answering to the point questions that are addressed to my students.
>
> I hope you understand that this is the first time in my life as a Singaporean I may be asked to vote. I take that responsibility very, VERY seriously, weighing all factors involved. Each political party has its own aims and objectives and track record (or none where some of the opposition are concerned) all of which I am very well aware of. The ONE thing which is not clear, and which is difficult to determine, is the individual politician - the person who will represent me in my constituency. It is this individual politician that I am genuinely interested to know. I need to know and understand what this individual can bring to the table.
>
> That is why I was so keen for you to convince me why I should vote for you. Not why I should not vote for the opposition. Not why I should vote PAP. But why I should vote for you. I was genuinely interested to hear your answers. Instead, not only did I not get direct a reply from you, I caused you to turn away in anger. Maybe it was the end of a very long day for you, maybe my tone and questions threw you off-centre. Either way, it left a sour note behind, I believe, for both of us.
>
> Right after you left, I immediately sat down to read the Moulmein newsletter cover to cover (the bits in English) exactly as you suggested I should do to find out more about you. Unfortunately, it doesn't shed any light on your as an individual or as the leader of Moulmein. It tells me instead about the wonderful grassroots teams and wonderful committees that have come up with truly great ideas, which I like very much. But it doesn't tell me about you. And so I am still left clueless.
>
> The questions I asked you will be the same questions I will be asking whoever decides (if at all) to stand against you in the elections. If the opposition candidate is equally stumped and/or angered by me, then you can rest assured that I will be forced to find another way to come to a decision well-thought through.
>
> Before I end, I would like to stress that I am not against the PAP in any way, nor am I for any particular opposition party. I am merely a Singaporean, proud and excited at the thought of a chance at finally being able to exercise my right to vote.
>
>
>
> With Regards
> -
I couldn't help feeling surprised by Lui's email reply to the Moulmein resident. Specifically the part where Lui wrote: "Don't worry, [the incident] didn't leave a sour note with me nor a poor impression of you."
In my opinion, it is Lui's own behavior which would leave a sour note with voters, and a poor impression on them. Singaporeans don't owe you a living, Mr Lui.
Posted by Gilbert Koh aka Mr Wang
*****
And I have to agree with Mr Wang.
The sheer cheek of the man to write "Dont worry, it didnt leave a sour note with me nor a poor impression of you." The complete and utter lack of insight that this ugly singaporean - yes, he is an ugly singaporean if this account is true - a social neanderthal - dismays me.
Wait, wait - that's not cheek. That's just him speaking his mind. That's a Rear Admiral's candidness...
This is the voice of the government BG Lee is trying to persuade us is going to try to listen harder to us, to empathize more, to be one with the people.
My God. What have we done?
... what happens to the doctor-doctors who make it into parliament?
I'd always assumed that the "Drs" were just honorifics. Two minutes of googling...
... and it turns out :
Dr Ng Eng Hen. Ex - consultant surgical oncologist. Now - Minister for Defence
Dr Vivian Balakrishnan. Ex- consultant opthalmologist. Now - Minister for Environment and Water Resources
The doctorates :
Dr Amy Khor Lean Suan - PhD in Land Management. Non medical. Now a minister of state.
Dr Mohamad Maliki Bin Osman - PhD in... dunno what. Non medical. Now a senior parliamentary secretary.
So... the two medically trained guys are heading up Defence, and Environment/Water Resources.
I wonder who's heading health?
Gan Kim Yong. Masters in Engineering (Cambridge). Now Minister for Health.
And what happens to our military men?
MG (NS) Chan Chun Sing – Acting Minister for Community Development, Youth and Sports, Minister of State for Ministry of Information, Communications and the Arts
BG (NS) Tan Chuan-Jin – Ministry of National Development and Ministry of Manpower
*******
Ok. Ok. Hold up. This is getting too much for my simple mind to comprehend.
So we have an engineer in charge of healthcare, a doctor in charge of defence, and a Major General in charge of God knows What.
We have another doctor in charge of the Environment, and a Brigadeer General in charge of National Development.
Deep breath.
What's going on? Musical chairs? Is it me or are we intentionally sticking people into places as familiar to them as an elephant's behind? Isn't this how cockups are GUARANTEED?
Ok. I'm indubitably going to find out that it was intentional all along. There's some rule that I, in my gargauntum, gobsmacked Layman's ignorance am not aware of, that people mustn't be allowed to do what they know.
Well. Frankly, if it was up to me, I'd put a general in charge of defence, a doctor in charge of healthcare, and an engineer in charge of building the country. Because I want the best people for the job. And because I acknowledge that these highly touted and near-venerated Ministers with their Godlike salaries are only people. They are ORDINARY people. Just like you and I. Except that they have talents - unlike most of us - talents in doing the things they know. Experience - a wealth of experience - in the lives they used to lead. Valuable experience that should be tapped, to hone the country into that elusive first-world reality that has thus far eluded us. Opinions on how things should have but weren't being done, in the fields they knew well.
You could argue that it's bringing a fresh-perspective to things, yes. A soldier in charge of the defence will just soldier on, yes.
But frankly all we're doing is making people learn on the job. Isn't that what all of us were so incensed with, with respect to Ms Tin Pei Ling?
Isn't the PAP all about groundwork, and elbow grease, working working working to know the ground?
Well, the soldier ALREADY knows the other soldiers in the army he left behind. The doctor ALREADY knows the doctors in the system he departed. The engineer knows... err.. geometry.
Why waste all that knowledge dumping them in the deep end and patting them on the back for their obvious intellect - you'll adapt me boy, you'll be fine, go do us proud! - when we could put them somewhere familiar - and see how much FURTHER they can go?
I mean, would you put a brain surgeon in charge of transport?
Say, who's in charge of transport, anyway?
Liu Tuck Yew - Graduate in Chemistry from Cambridge University, ex Rear Admiral in the Singapore Navy (we have a navy? We have an Admiral?? wah.) - Transport Minister.
*******
Lui Tuck Yew Shocks a Citizen During His Walkabout
I saw this on my Facebook. The story seems to be getting a lot of attention in cyberspace. It's all about a Moulmein resident's unpleasant encounter with PAP candidate Lui Tuck Yew.
Dear Friends
I am forwarding you an email I sent to the incumbent MP for Moulmein, Mr Lui Tuck Yew, and his subsequent reply. (They are reversed in order below). I have only deleted my name/addresses and Mr Lui's address for the sake of privacy in the event that you may wish to forward this to your own friends. I trust you will not use this email to "flame" (hope I used the term correctly), but instead to educate and perhaps generate informed discussion.
I am sending my friends this because I feel that it is important that you hear what happened to me personally, and how Mr Lui reacted to me during what I thought was a simple, agreeable conversation. Those of you who know me well know that I do not go around deliberately antagonising people or creating trouble of any kind. So the flow of the conversation that took place left me shocked, and I must admit, sad. Mr Lui explains his "disengagement" in his reply attached below. I will leave you to read the whole story and the two emails and then come to your own conclusions.
First, the background to this whole incident.
I have been a resident of Moulmein my whole life, and not once have I ever had the chance or privilege to vote. So you can imagine how excited I was when I realised that there may be a strong possibility that Moulmein would be contested this time round. Prior to Mr Lui being the walkover MP, our MP was Mr Khaw Boon Wan. If Mr Khaw had still been our MP, I would most likely have voted for him as Mr Khaw had made his presence felt strongly in Moulmein, even at a social level, and it had always been a very reassuring presence. Mr Lui, on the other hand, has not had much of a presence.
So, on a recent walkabout in Moulmein, I happened to have what I thought at the time, was the privilege, to meet Mr Lui and get to know him better. He started off very friendly and handed me the Moulmein newsletter. He asked how long I'd been living here, and I let him know that I have been in Moulmein my whole life, and that this was the first time I may get a chance to vote. His immediate reaction was, "Yes, blame the Opposition! I don't know what they ..." and he went on to say something more which I couldn't hear because my brain was trying to process the fact that he had actually openly said, "Blame the Opposition" in a serious tone, laced with annoyance. He might have sensed my confusion (I'm guessing here). I then changed topic and pointed out to him that I had felt Mr Khaw's presence much more than his, and I requested for him to let me hear some of what he had done for Moulmein.
He told me to refer to the newsletter. I then said that I really wanted to hear from him, and not read what other people (ie his grassroots team) had created. He immediately started listing all the playgrounds they had done up (there was always the word "We") and spoke about a unique-to-Moulmein schools programme, which I liked very much. I interrupted him a few times to clarify a few things he had said.
I next asked him to let me know why I should vote for him. (I'm serious about voting, and I have thought this through so carefully. I told myself that no matter what, it was my duty to try and understand each candidate and approach them one-to-one before I cast my vote. And it was, and still is, my resolve to ask each candidate this question - why I should vote for them.)
I'm now going to recount the dialogue word-for-word as it is still clearly playing itself over and over in my head:
Me: Could you please tell me why I should vote for you?
Mr Lui: You should NOT vote for the Opposition because they ...
Me: The Opposition? No, I want to know about you. Please tell me why I should vote for you.
Mr Lui: You should vote for the PAP because we ....
Me: The PAP? No, no. I'm not interested in the PAP or the Opposition. I'm interested to know about you. Why should I vote for you?
At this point, Mr Lui shot me a look of pure anger, waved his hand about in the air, declaring, "We could spend all night talking about me!", pointed to the newsletter and snapped, "It's all in the the newsletter!" He then swung round and stormed off.
I remember standing there, in total shock, wondering what on earth I had done wrong to deserve such an intense reaction. I watched as he couldn't get beyond two or three steps as he was stopped by someone else wanting to meet him. I watched as he switched on his smile, said a few polite words, thrust the newsletter into her hand and disappeared, still angered. (Those who know me well, know I did my MA in nonverbal language, and know how accurate I am with "vibes".) I watched as his posse scurried after him, not one of them daring and/or caring to turn to look at me or say goodbye, not one of them.
I had asked a simple question. I was not expecting rocket science for an answer or any deep psychological profile to be shared. Just a simple answer from the heart would have sufficed, or even a more measured response. But not anger, never in a million years would I have thought anyone would have, or could have, responded to my simple question with anger.
And I feel sad.
Sad that after all these years, what people have been saying has finally been proven true to my face, literally.
I then turned to the Moulmein newsletter, ploughed through it in the hope that perhaps there was a lot about Mr Lui in the newsletter. No, there wasn't. Not a thing. Instead, I was left very impressed with the Moulmein Citizens Consultative Committee, the various Neighbourhood Committees and the Residents' Committees - all of which I am sure will not disappear if there is a change in leadership.
So I sat down, and penned an email, which I have since sent, to Mr Lui. I chose to be polite and measured in the email, and not angry nor accusatory because to be angry would have been to stoop to Mr Lui's response towards me, and that would not do anyone any good. If he's going to continue as Minister (and it does look like he's on the PAP fast-track if he's voted back in), then really, he needs to hear, he needs to understand, he needs to be educated. And he needs to learn how to answer simple, non-threatening questions!
It's such an irony that prior to the dissolution of Parliament, he was the Minister for Information, Communications and the Arts.
You'll find the email below, and Mr Lui's response (in reverse order), which I just received a short while ago.
If you should choose to share my experience with any of your friends who need or would wish to read this, I request that you not include my email address and name.
Love and hugs everyone.
-
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Tuck Yew LUI (MICA)
Date: 22 April 2011 16:53
Subject: Re: Moulmein Walkabout
To:
Dear - ,
i am sure this may not apply to you given that you have now taken the trouble to write this note but unfortunately I encounter some people whose minds are made up and whose main intent seem to be to slow us down in our outreach. And nothing, we say, no explanation we give whether to do with cost of living, etc will ever be good enough.
The pragmatic way to deal with this is simply to disengage at an opportune moment.
Dont worry, it didnt leave a sour note with me nor a poor impression of you.
Regards,
Lui Tuck Yew
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 21, 2011, at 10:18 PM, "-" wrote:
> Dear Mr Lui,
>
> We met briefly at the walkabout at xxxxxxxxxx last evening. Unfortunately, I seem to have upset and angered you which was not my intention at all.
>
> If I appeared rude or aggressive in any way, then I apologise. I don't usually take too well to answers that are off-tangent, they tend to confuse me, and I always re-direct answers back to my original question which often means that I can appear too direct or clinical and therefore somewhat aggressive. As a teacher by training, I have always emphasised the importance and merits of listening carefully and answering to the point questions that are addressed to my students.
>
> I hope you understand that this is the first time in my life as a Singaporean I may be asked to vote. I take that responsibility very, VERY seriously, weighing all factors involved. Each political party has its own aims and objectives and track record (or none where some of the opposition are concerned) all of which I am very well aware of. The ONE thing which is not clear, and which is difficult to determine, is the individual politician - the person who will represent me in my constituency. It is this individual politician that I am genuinely interested to know. I need to know and understand what this individual can bring to the table.
>
> That is why I was so keen for you to convince me why I should vote for you. Not why I should not vote for the opposition. Not why I should vote PAP. But why I should vote for you. I was genuinely interested to hear your answers. Instead, not only did I not get direct a reply from you, I caused you to turn away in anger. Maybe it was the end of a very long day for you, maybe my tone and questions threw you off-centre. Either way, it left a sour note behind, I believe, for both of us.
>
> Right after you left, I immediately sat down to read the Moulmein newsletter cover to cover (the bits in English) exactly as you suggested I should do to find out more about you. Unfortunately, it doesn't shed any light on your as an individual or as the leader of Moulmein. It tells me instead about the wonderful grassroots teams and wonderful committees that have come up with truly great ideas, which I like very much. But it doesn't tell me about you. And so I am still left clueless.
>
> The questions I asked you will be the same questions I will be asking whoever decides (if at all) to stand against you in the elections. If the opposition candidate is equally stumped and/or angered by me, then you can rest assured that I will be forced to find another way to come to a decision well-thought through.
>
> Before I end, I would like to stress that I am not against the PAP in any way, nor am I for any particular opposition party. I am merely a Singaporean, proud and excited at the thought of a chance at finally being able to exercise my right to vote.
>
>
>
> With Regards
> -
I couldn't help feeling surprised by Lui's email reply to the Moulmein resident. Specifically the part where Lui wrote: "Don't worry, [the incident] didn't leave a sour note with me nor a poor impression of you."
In my opinion, it is Lui's own behavior which would leave a sour note with voters, and a poor impression on them. Singaporeans don't owe you a living, Mr Lui.
Posted by Gilbert Koh aka Mr Wang
*****
And I have to agree with Mr Wang.
The sheer cheek of the man to write "Dont worry, it didnt leave a sour note with me nor a poor impression of you." The complete and utter lack of insight that this ugly singaporean - yes, he is an ugly singaporean if this account is true - a social neanderthal - dismays me.
Wait, wait - that's not cheek. That's just him speaking his mind. That's a Rear Admiral's candidness...
This is the voice of the government BG Lee is trying to persuade us is going to try to listen harder to us, to empathize more, to be one with the people.
My God. What have we done?
Sunday, May 22, 2011
Saving Private Ryan
Been spending some time with a friend who was meant to get married last weekend, up until the moment he uncovered his fiancee's indiscretions just a fortnight previously, after she'd been acting strangely.
It made me sad to hear him telling me his story. He wasn't a blubbering mess, he's far too stoic for that. And perhaps that time had come and gone, now it was just dispassionate, non-linear thoughts that needed to be spoken.
"...in hindsight perhaps could have seen it... she didn't tell me things because she felt it wasn't necessary... it made me wonder..."
"...she said it wasn't planned..."
"...glad I found out now, and not after the wedding..."
"...her parents had..."
"...she'd been on the receiving end..."
"...i'm the sort of guy who, if I taste something bad, wouldn't want other people to suffer it..."
"...gave her space... trust"
"...I could have. I had opportunities to cheat too; there were many...But I didn't..."
"Why? Why would anyone do something like this to someone else?"
We're guys. We hold our drinks and don't look each other in the eye. Guys don't touch each other, or hug. We just bludgeon each other with thoughts, and words. That's male comfort.
I told him mine thoughts. I told him I empathized.
"These people are selfish; they don't think like us.... it boggles the mind, but awareness doesn't equate to morality; they know what's right and wrong... they just don't choose like us. It's not much comfort, but whatever tears are being shed now are being shed for her, not for you."
It pained me, to see this man - this good man brought to his knees for the simple crime of treating someone too well, giving too much, trusting too much. It pained me to know that the other protaganist in the story was sobbing her eyes out - not because of how great an injustice she had done him, but because she had lost something good from her life, and she knew it. She wanted him back, but Thank God he had enough common sense and fortitude to walk away.
******
The analogy holds true to a country as well. Agent J was half-kidding during the election runup that the people and government were very much akin to spurned lovers. The people were accusing the Powers of not loving them anymore, of cheating on them. The Powers were responding with defiance, denial and anger instead of contrition. They were driving the people further away.
Then there was an abrupt U turn - which the Powers are becoming so prone to as time passes, and suddenly the tears had dried up -- all those tears in the runup so at odds with the words being spoken denying all culpability -- suddenly the tears had dried up but the words had changed. Sorry seems to be the hardest word?
Why are the people so upset? Perhaps precisely because they (Powers) don't tell us things they don't think are relevant to us... a maid is murdered in a watertank and the immediate response is to conceal the truth for 24 hours, ("maintenance works!") while people haplessly go on drinking the water, because a bit of maintenance can't possibly be bad for them...
... I think those people would have a very good case for a lawsuit.
Precisely because we have given them - or rather, been taught to, been conditioned to give them all our trust. We work to support the country, and government - exactly like in a relationship. Yet now the people are beginning to feel that trust has been violated. Perhaps as truths of our slightly foggy past begin to emerge, perhaps as the pieces fall into place and the youth begin to find out just why the world calls us a police state -- perhaps that trust will seem to have been violated more and more. The problem with truth is that it always comes out in the end.
Perhaps they're just disaffected. And yes, the disaffected are dangerous; the last thing we need is anarchy and the government is right to fear that.
This isn't a good place we're in now.
And I blame myopia. The government of old that we're all falling over ourselves to heap praise on for steering us out of the dark ages - they created this situation. Deliberately. Perhaps they didn't bank on fear dissipating with increasing ignorance. Perhaps they didn't take into consideration how much people want the truth, or how much they want for the collective, that they are willing to risk sacrifices. Perhaps they didn't count on people being nationalistic, and caring for the country.
But this is where we're at now. Let's not mince words. There was no clear mandate. There was a borderline victory across the board. And next time there is a real risk of everything being lost.
Let's stop pretending the people vociferously stamped their approval on the PAP. 60something percent majority when considering the trends of the past - think of it in terms of rugby. It's losing ground. Slowly but surely.
Change is needed to combat this. Very real change - deliberate, careful change that undoes the mistakes of the past without undoing the bootlaces of the country. Change that involves humility, and heartfelt apologies from those still around, and those exiting stage left, yet strength and resolve to keep moving forwards.
Courage is needed, to pardon those who have been wronged, and to undo the tweaks to the judiciary and elective processes that damage the country - that damage this country's international standing.
We want a first world country, not a first world government. We need salaries revised, not reviewed.
And yes, I appreciate that these things must come slowly, because otherwise too much face is lost, and the public may swing the wrong way. Governing a country is not easy.
But they must come, at the end of the day.
Or else all that happens is a breakup, and everything that was once special, and personal between parties becomes lost in the past, and irrelevant tomorrow. That's the way relationships go.
And tomorrow the people will have found a new partner - one that they are good with, that is good with them; that treats them with the respect they demand, that they can, in turn, respect.
It made me sad to hear him telling me his story. He wasn't a blubbering mess, he's far too stoic for that. And perhaps that time had come and gone, now it was just dispassionate, non-linear thoughts that needed to be spoken.
"...in hindsight perhaps could have seen it... she didn't tell me things because she felt it wasn't necessary... it made me wonder..."
"...she said it wasn't planned..."
"...glad I found out now, and not after the wedding..."
"...her parents had..."
"...she'd been on the receiving end..."
"...i'm the sort of guy who, if I taste something bad, wouldn't want other people to suffer it..."
"...gave her space... trust"
"...I could have. I had opportunities to cheat too; there were many...But I didn't..."
"Why? Why would anyone do something like this to someone else?"
We're guys. We hold our drinks and don't look each other in the eye. Guys don't touch each other, or hug. We just bludgeon each other with thoughts, and words. That's male comfort.
I told him mine thoughts. I told him I empathized.
"These people are selfish; they don't think like us.... it boggles the mind, but awareness doesn't equate to morality; they know what's right and wrong... they just don't choose like us. It's not much comfort, but whatever tears are being shed now are being shed for her, not for you."
It pained me, to see this man - this good man brought to his knees for the simple crime of treating someone too well, giving too much, trusting too much. It pained me to know that the other protaganist in the story was sobbing her eyes out - not because of how great an injustice she had done him, but because she had lost something good from her life, and she knew it. She wanted him back, but Thank God he had enough common sense and fortitude to walk away.
******
The analogy holds true to a country as well. Agent J was half-kidding during the election runup that the people and government were very much akin to spurned lovers. The people were accusing the Powers of not loving them anymore, of cheating on them. The Powers were responding with defiance, denial and anger instead of contrition. They were driving the people further away.
Then there was an abrupt U turn - which the Powers are becoming so prone to as time passes, and suddenly the tears had dried up -- all those tears in the runup so at odds with the words being spoken denying all culpability -- suddenly the tears had dried up but the words had changed. Sorry seems to be the hardest word?
Why are the people so upset? Perhaps precisely because they (Powers) don't tell us things they don't think are relevant to us... a maid is murdered in a watertank and the immediate response is to conceal the truth for 24 hours, ("maintenance works!") while people haplessly go on drinking the water, because a bit of maintenance can't possibly be bad for them...
... I think those people would have a very good case for a lawsuit.
Precisely because we have given them - or rather, been taught to, been conditioned to give them all our trust. We work to support the country, and government - exactly like in a relationship. Yet now the people are beginning to feel that trust has been violated. Perhaps as truths of our slightly foggy past begin to emerge, perhaps as the pieces fall into place and the youth begin to find out just why the world calls us a police state -- perhaps that trust will seem to have been violated more and more. The problem with truth is that it always comes out in the end.
Perhaps they're just disaffected. And yes, the disaffected are dangerous; the last thing we need is anarchy and the government is right to fear that.
This isn't a good place we're in now.
And I blame myopia. The government of old that we're all falling over ourselves to heap praise on for steering us out of the dark ages - they created this situation. Deliberately. Perhaps they didn't bank on fear dissipating with increasing ignorance. Perhaps they didn't take into consideration how much people want the truth, or how much they want for the collective, that they are willing to risk sacrifices. Perhaps they didn't count on people being nationalistic, and caring for the country.
But this is where we're at now. Let's not mince words. There was no clear mandate. There was a borderline victory across the board. And next time there is a real risk of everything being lost.
Let's stop pretending the people vociferously stamped their approval on the PAP. 60something percent majority when considering the trends of the past - think of it in terms of rugby. It's losing ground. Slowly but surely.
Change is needed to combat this. Very real change - deliberate, careful change that undoes the mistakes of the past without undoing the bootlaces of the country. Change that involves humility, and heartfelt apologies from those still around, and those exiting stage left, yet strength and resolve to keep moving forwards.
Courage is needed, to pardon those who have been wronged, and to undo the tweaks to the judiciary and elective processes that damage the country - that damage this country's international standing.
We want a first world country, not a first world government. We need salaries revised, not reviewed.
And yes, I appreciate that these things must come slowly, because otherwise too much face is lost, and the public may swing the wrong way. Governing a country is not easy.
But they must come, at the end of the day.
Or else all that happens is a breakup, and everything that was once special, and personal between parties becomes lost in the past, and irrelevant tomorrow. That's the way relationships go.
And tomorrow the people will have found a new partner - one that they are good with, that is good with them; that treats them with the respect they demand, that they can, in turn, respect.
Saturday, May 21, 2011
:(
Ok let's try to be fair.
She was working with a bad script, and probably some halfwit director was telling her how to act like, frankly, a retarded, beaming bimbo.
The things that disturb me:
1) This is a person who was trying to get into government? Most people with political aspirations would have turned this down... hell most people would have turned down the role, except a true blue camwhore. I mean... gag. That's a script? It just makes her look bad in so, so many ways - along with the rest of Singaporean women. (it's implied in the script.)
2) THIS is what our money goes into?!? I mean, this was funded by someone, right? Please tell me this was a private initiative. Please....
If it's publically funded, then what is the message they are trying to deliver? That rings are good? That getting engaged will make you smile vacuously into your palm like an impaired orang utan? Is THIS supposed to make the youth reproduce?!? NO WONDER OUR POPULATION IS DECLINING. People don't want to get married and raise families because they're afraid of turning into fucking retards!!!
I'm. So. Upset.
I know, I know. Take a chill pill, this is small potatoes compared to V Bala and his "I did not overspend, I just got the initial estimate wrong" thingie.
But the sad truth is - this is the tip of the iceberg.
Just the tip. What other f*****ing halfwit ideas came to fruitition because of the might is right thingie?
Nobody in their right mind would have funded this as a private initiative, I don't think. It just has no point, no message, and is bound to fail utterly and completely.
Can you imagine the committe that sat down together to dream up this script? I honestly can't.
I can't. Images of drooling ghouls with arrows sticking out their heads come to mind.
Why is it I fight tooth and nail to build medical devices or process improvements that are shot down because they're not "cost effective" -- but this kind of shit gets public spending?!?!?
Community Improvement?! I'll show you community improvement! Just let me at the people responsible for this..... and I'll improve them.
GAAAAAh.
And to top it off, the thing is badly shot. With bad equipment.
Compare it top right to the "fly by night 2005" video winner. That thing was done on the fly by an UNKNOWN team of directors and producers. With a VOLUNTEER non-actor cast. Today they're mini celebrities in their own right (nicholas chee and randy ang) for the sheer care they took, and the degree of perfection they required of their team. A meticulous eye for detail, for a simple video competition.
This "director" was hired. and PAID. with OUR MONEY. And he turned out THIS CRAP? And would it have killed them to use a proper, professional actress?!
Brave New World
So here is our brave new face of the government, selflessly drinking freshly dead maid water with great fortitude, to show the sheep that it's okay, it's all in your heads.
The fact that he does not keel over and die immediately afterwards is proof positive that the water is safe to drink, and this will, as the straits times put it, "soothe" the residents into behaving like sheep again instead of vaguely psychotic... hounds baying for blood.
I'm sorry, PAP. I'm really sorry.
This damages BG Lee's attempts to show us a brave, sensitive, empathic new-age Government, so much. It Pwns the New-PAP.
Deep breath.
Why? Because, Sir it exposes the mindset of whoever sent poor Vikram on this fool's errand (and you can see it written on his face... He's got "I can't believe I'm really doing this..." written all over his face. But well, he's the new guy so he gets to do the dirty work. And he's smart enough to know that the pipes are still contaminated; well, diluted now no doubt, but there'll still be traces of maid pee or whatever it was she released that turned the water foamy. Perhaps it's decomposing flesh. Who knows?
And predictably - to ANY F****ing halfwit, but apparently not the powers that be -- it didn't work.
I mean wouldn't you still be grossed out after this? YOU, PERSONALLY? Yes, you sir.
And the video doesn't follow the MP around to see if he gets Lao Sai later. It just ends with a thumbs up.
Hell maybe he puked it all out immediately afterwards. Most people would - the thought is revolting.
So now they're U-turning again and shutting down the water tank. After due consideration. After this token, stupid show of god knows what.
I'm sorry. I'm having a great deal of difficulty with this. The mindset still reeks of paternalism, and disconnection with the people.
I want to believe BG Lee, I really do. I want to believe he's a good man, with a good heart, with an unenviable task cast upon him. Perhaps he's just hampered by his team, who still think like retarded axe-men, instead of empathic, intelligent individuals. Who can't begin to START thinking "what would I think, if I was one of them?"
I'm not one of them. I don't live in HDB. And I'm thinking "THANK GOD I don't live in HDB" and "Those poor, poor people...." I mean imagine, a whole day worth of drinking water from the pipes because the residents committee didn't think it was relevant to tell them there was a dead woman sullying the pipes. It wasn't important to tell them. They weren't important enough to know. They didn't need to know.
So maybe nobody died (except the poor maid). But. UGHHHHhhhhh.
If I were Vikram I would sue. Honestly. :( All credit to the man for not rolling his eyes.
Thursday, May 12, 2011
Inauguration of the Death Star
Original photo at MrBrown
...remove some of the masking, delete the hidden layer... HA. I thought so!
Wednesday, May 11, 2011
Officer and Gentleman
Dear Yvonne Chia,
Think of this analogy. I was given a recruit who was assessed to have the potential to be a good soldier. The platoon had to capture a hill. The recruit came under a hail of bullets. As platoon leader, I had to protect him, even at the risk of my own life.
Am I being stubborn or deaf? Or did I not do the honourable thing expected of a platoon leader?
That the recruit could have been better prepared for the mission or be an older, more experienced recruit is a separate point. I am aware of the widespread unhappiness at sending this recruit to the platoon. But I would say, now that the recruit has survived the ordeal of battle, let him prove that he can be a good soldier…
Goh Chok Tong
Think of this analogy. I was given a recruit who was assessed to have the potential to be a good soldier. The platoon had to capture a hill. The recruit came under a hail of bullets. As platoon leader, I had to protect him, even at the risk of my own life.
Am I being stubborn or deaf? Or did I not do the honourable thing expected of a platoon leader?
That the recruit could have been better prepared for the mission or be an older, more experienced recruit is a separate point. I am aware of the widespread unhappiness at sending this recruit to the platoon. But I would say, now that the recruit has survived the ordeal of battle, let him prove that he can be a good soldier…
Goh Chok Tong
Wah. Really ah.
2011 vs 2006
Aljunied GRC: 56.1% to 45.3%, -10.8%
Jurong GRC*: 79.8% to 67.0%, – 12.8%
Tampines GRC: 68.5% to 57.2%, -11.3%
Joo Chiat SMC: 65.0% to 51.0%, -14.0%
East Coast GRC: 63.9% to 54.8%, -9.1%
Ang Mo Kio GRC: 66.1% to 69.3%, +3.2%
Bt Panjang SMC: 77.2% to 66.3%, -10.9%
Sembawang GRC: 76.7% to 63.9%, -12.8%
Pasir Ris Punggol GRC: 68.7% to 64.8%, -3.9%
looks like my share prices :(
Aljunied GRC: 56.1% to 45.3%, -10.8%
Jurong GRC*: 79.8% to 67.0%, – 12.8%
Tampines GRC: 68.5% to 57.2%, -11.3%
Joo Chiat SMC: 65.0% to 51.0%, -14.0%
East Coast GRC: 63.9% to 54.8%, -9.1%
Ang Mo Kio GRC: 66.1% to 69.3%, +3.2%
Bt Panjang SMC: 77.2% to 66.3%, -10.9%
Sembawang GRC: 76.7% to 63.9%, -12.8%
Pasir Ris Punggol GRC: 68.7% to 64.8%, -3.9%
looks like my share prices :(
Blueland vs Redland
I, on the other hand think GRCs are important. Racial minorities are important. Their voices must be heard. We can never let enough of them into parliament.
Tuesday, May 10, 2011
Overnight Overlord
(A letter from a friend of a friend)
Dear Ms Tin,
The long and short of it is that the youth do not want you as their representative. No amount of hard work on the ground will reconcile you with the "me" generation, because they have identified in you everything they do NOT want in a leader - fairly or unfairly. Frankly, you should give up on that and focus on the people who seem to like you - the elderly. The elderly have need of a champion as well, especially in a greying society like ours. You will have much greater difficulty relating to them, because they are the generation that lived in a climate of fear, and it will be hard to make them open up to you, for real rather than token gestures of kindness for a little girl who reminds them of their grand-daughters. It might do you good to read up the archives of all that has been, so that you stand a chance of truly connecting with them.
The youth are looking for someone to be infatuated with - someone with a sparkling wit, impeccable humour and blinding intelligence. They need a hero to rebel against authority, or at least to show the old fogies how it's really done. It's much the same with women's rights - you don't put a man in charge.
Your opponent possessed some of these qualities and this is why she endeared herself to the youth: She was fiery and passionate and truly wanted to make a difference, and it showed in her eyes (even if all she stands for is sob stories and the underprivileged, and the sum total of her at present is bleeding heart naivety better suited for missionary work than politics). She could speak in tongues and the young will buy it tooth and nail, and call her intelligent to boot. Tough nuts, them's the breaks.
To be frank, even if you scrubbed the floors of the elderly for five years till your nails bled and your knees gave out, the best you can hope to achieve, as Mr Goh has kindly put it, is growth into a "good" MP. And let us not mince words, by good he means decent and passable. An MP that got the job done well enough, but not quite one for the history books.
The youth want a champion, someone they see as particularly exceptional. That's what the "me" generation is about, glaring, blinding exception. A windows blue screen of death in stark white. Ironically, they recognize George Yeo to have these talents, and that is why they are calling for him to return to parliament, at your expense.
Don't blame them - the youth have always been like this since time immemorial; our parents were like that as teenagers as were their parents parents. We outgrow it with maturity. We gain wisdom with age, and then we look to our leaders for other qualities - depth of thought, broadness of perception, clear, level-headed decision making that strive for balance, and optimality.
Perhaps you are not like them - perhaps you truly do not understand why your image was so catastrophically destroyed - not by a concerted effort from a malignant opposition, but by a unanimous unspoken vote of no-confidence. If you are not like these youth, then it stands to reason why you cannot represent them.
Mr Goh reiterates how the PAP wanted you, and therefore it is not your fault for the hatred that you now receive. The PAP has wanted many people, at different times, and some of them either declined, or waited till an opportune moment in the future.
You could have declined and told them what is apparent now - you were not ready. Had you had entered politics five years later I suspect that you would have had more intelligent things to say to the reporters (never, never say you have no opinion! ever on pain of death! watch how the other ministers couch their words to support the party line without actually exposing their happiness with the status quo!)
and more confidence with which to say them. You would have had more of an inkling what people really want from a leader, and you might actually have been able to be that leader. Oh yes, and please stop repeating yourself. You tend to make the same point at least twice during the course of an interview. It is very annoying. The same goes for sentence construction. Don't say things like "the good in this is that it is good", or "it was a totally totalitarian..." etc. Please take a moment to think before you speak.
I wish you well in your political career, and would be overjoyed to discover that there are hidden depths to you that the relentless barrage of interviews and rallies have failed to extract, and that you will make a meaningful, lasting contribution that did good for the people. It would be refreshing to see you earn your keep.
Know that in the time you spend growing into a passable member of parliament, your opponent will be growing as well. The onus on you is to outgrow her - not because elections are a popularity circus (which sadly they are) but because unlike Nicole, you have, as Mr Goh says, somehow "made it" (here I suppose he means you didn't get run over by a car crossing the street or get hit by a bolt of lightning from the heavens, since there really is no conceivable way otherwise for you to not "make it" in, barring a vote of no-confidence in SM Goh himself) and you are here now, holding the office that you do. You OWE it to the people to grow.
It is your duty, and your responsibility.
Sunday, May 8, 2011
The Symptoms
I remember when I was back in med school being approached to write something for the press. The details escape me - I was very busy trying to stay afloat in terms of work and beer - what I remember is how it was done: I was told to write something since I had been selected to receive the honour.
Not invited to contribute out of mutual goodwill, no recognition of my time and effot - just a statement that I was being given the honour. A bit like how HSBC now lords it over me; a story for another day when I have more time.
Naturally I told them to piss off and die - I wish. I think I just junked the email.
*****
Some time shortly after the U-turn in recruitment policy (doctor shortage, alamak) a task force was sent to recruit us from the UK.
I didn't know who those people were, except that they were old, slightly out of shape and bursting out of their suits.
About fifty of us showed up more out of curiosity than anything else; we were mostly from london and I guess we had the time to pop by.
What transpired was a lecture on how it was our duty to come back to Singapore, how we were beholden. We were told how much shinier everything was here, how much better equipped it is, and how, above all, we owed it to them to come back.
Most of us were incredulous that this bunch of strangers would presume to come out here and play the Duty Honour Country card - was there a war on that we had missed? Was there any conceivable reason at all that we should give up what we had - and we had a lot, working and studying in london. A lot.
Our president of the SMSS (singapore medical students society) was a very brazen, blunt (and sometimes uncouth. heh) individual. He asked what our pay would be like.
The person hemmed and hawed and beat about the bush. E. asked him what our calls would be like. More of the same. We started chipping in and asking for details. None were forthcoming. It became increasingly apparent that they hadn't come back here to entice us home. They had come expecting us to fall at their feet in adulation.
We left the hall that day convinced never to return if we could help it.
I couldn't help it. There were extenuating circumstances.
I pray the rest of my friends and colleagues who remained there, and overseas are well.
These are increasingly uncertain times we're living with, here in Singapore, but working conditions have improved somewhat, and perhaps with time the rest of the problems will get sorted out. I wouldn't recommend coming back right now, but if you need to I can provide specific details should you require them; leave a comment.
The point of this post is that sometimes people in power - or the people who represent those in power - forget what is really, really important to those on the ground. Their ivory towers grow so tall that stepping out for a jaunt is already, in their opinions, three quarters the job done.
Sometimes they think that walking the ground is akin to reaching out, and they are puzzled when the ground rejects them... when in truth all they have to do is treat the ground like fellow human beings who deserve to be listened to, and made to feel like equals - instead of dirt under their feet, or on their hands to be washed away.
Not invited to contribute out of mutual goodwill, no recognition of my time and effot - just a statement that I was being given the honour. A bit like how HSBC now lords it over me; a story for another day when I have more time.
Naturally I told them to piss off and die - I wish. I think I just junked the email.
*****
Some time shortly after the U-turn in recruitment policy (doctor shortage, alamak) a task force was sent to recruit us from the UK.
I didn't know who those people were, except that they were old, slightly out of shape and bursting out of their suits.
About fifty of us showed up more out of curiosity than anything else; we were mostly from london and I guess we had the time to pop by.
What transpired was a lecture on how it was our duty to come back to Singapore, how we were beholden. We were told how much shinier everything was here, how much better equipped it is, and how, above all, we owed it to them to come back.
Most of us were incredulous that this bunch of strangers would presume to come out here and play the Duty Honour Country card - was there a war on that we had missed? Was there any conceivable reason at all that we should give up what we had - and we had a lot, working and studying in london. A lot.
Our president of the SMSS (singapore medical students society) was a very brazen, blunt (and sometimes uncouth. heh) individual. He asked what our pay would be like.
The person hemmed and hawed and beat about the bush. E. asked him what our calls would be like. More of the same. We started chipping in and asking for details. None were forthcoming. It became increasingly apparent that they hadn't come back here to entice us home. They had come expecting us to fall at their feet in adulation.
We left the hall that day convinced never to return if we could help it.
I couldn't help it. There were extenuating circumstances.
I pray the rest of my friends and colleagues who remained there, and overseas are well.
These are increasingly uncertain times we're living with, here in Singapore, but working conditions have improved somewhat, and perhaps with time the rest of the problems will get sorted out. I wouldn't recommend coming back right now, but if you need to I can provide specific details should you require them; leave a comment.
The point of this post is that sometimes people in power - or the people who represent those in power - forget what is really, really important to those on the ground. Their ivory towers grow so tall that stepping out for a jaunt is already, in their opinions, three quarters the job done.
Sometimes they think that walking the ground is akin to reaching out, and they are puzzled when the ground rejects them... when in truth all they have to do is treat the ground like fellow human beings who deserve to be listened to, and made to feel like equals - instead of dirt under their feet, or on their hands to be washed away.
Friday, May 6, 2011
Sorry seems to be the hardest word
Feverish. Been studying for hours and hours and hours now.
Thanks to departmental stupidity I enrolled in a masters which was completely not what the department thought it would be. Thanks to monumental personal stupidity I decided to go-ahead with it. So here I am, on the brink of the great unknown, like a lamb to the... exam tomorrow.
So tired.
It's the eve of the elections.
Regardless of what happens, change looks... possible.
******
Imagine a training incident. A big one. Hypothetical.
A sergeant brutalizes a recruit - hmm where are you sgt Y*** from my NS days, with all your buttstrokes to the helmet during range, and all your vicious CCBs? -- and something bad happens, say the recruit loses his balance and falls back into the foxhole, cracks his skull on the concrete edge and gets a brain bleed and becomes brain damaged.
The CO, a BG issues an apology to the parents and public.
Well, I don't think that's right.
Ultimately yes, some of the responsibility must be assigned to the CO, and the CO learns from it - after he Fixes the problem. If he doesn't Fix the problem, then there is Another problem, and that's a whole different kettle of fish.
This is how a hierarchy works.
The CO doesn't apologize.
The sergeant does.
And at the back of his mind, he feels guilt, and fear of losing his rank and pay.
I don't want to see the CO apologize, and the sergeant not. I don't want to see the sergeant mitigate or vindicate himself. I don't need to see the sergeant punished.
But I would like to hear an apology.
Thanks to departmental stupidity I enrolled in a masters which was completely not what the department thought it would be. Thanks to monumental personal stupidity I decided to go-ahead with it. So here I am, on the brink of the great unknown, like a lamb to the... exam tomorrow.
So tired.
It's the eve of the elections.
Regardless of what happens, change looks... possible.
******
Imagine a training incident. A big one. Hypothetical.
A sergeant brutalizes a recruit - hmm where are you sgt Y*** from my NS days, with all your buttstrokes to the helmet during range, and all your vicious CCBs? -- and something bad happens, say the recruit loses his balance and falls back into the foxhole, cracks his skull on the concrete edge and gets a brain bleed and becomes brain damaged.
The CO, a BG issues an apology to the parents and public.
Well, I don't think that's right.
Ultimately yes, some of the responsibility must be assigned to the CO, and the CO learns from it - after he Fixes the problem. If he doesn't Fix the problem, then there is Another problem, and that's a whole different kettle of fish.
This is how a hierarchy works.
The CO doesn't apologize.
The sergeant does.
And at the back of his mind, he feels guilt, and fear of losing his rank and pay.
I don't want to see the CO apologize, and the sergeant not. I don't want to see the sergeant mitigate or vindicate himself. I don't need to see the sergeant punished.
But I would like to hear an apology.
Tuesday, May 3, 2011
No money No Honey
The Election Department Replies On the Rejection of Tanjong Pagar Candidates - And Gives Clear Grounds. Please Circulate.
.by Karen Teoh on Monday, 02 May 2011 at 18:25.Edits made to painfully bloody obvious typos.
YOU HAVE MY PERMISSION TO REPOST THIS IS WHICHEVER FORUM OF YOUR CHOOSING.
Friends,
Please see the e-mail reply below from the elections department, the contents of which are self explanatory.
As a matter of further clarification, I personally called Mr Ng Teck Siong at 16:22 pm today and he picked up the phone.
I introduced myself as one of the assentors on nomination day and asked him about whether he had paid the elections deposit.
Mr Ng Teck Siong told me, with supreme conviction that “I don’t pay the election deposit because they never process the nomination form”, confirming the statements made by Mr Lee of the Elections Department.
Unfortunately, the explicit wording of the statute, as well as instructions to candidate issued by the elections department do not support his supreme conviction.
In fact, a contrary view is held as to the nomination process. The relevant sections and links to documents are here:
Parliamentary Elections Act (Cap. 218) (“The PE Act”)
Deposits by candidates
28. —(1) A candidate, or some person on his behalf, shall deposit or cause to be deposited with the Returning Officer or with some person authorised by the Returning Officer in that behalf, between the date of the issue of the writ referred to in section 24 and 12 noon of the day of nomination, a sum equal to 8% of the total allowances payable to a Member of Parliament in the preceding calendar year, rounded to the nearest $500.
(1A) In default of the sum being so deposited under subsection (1), the candidate shall be deemed to have withdrawn his candidature under section 32
http://www.elections.gov.sg/pdf/PEC_handbook.pdf#zoom=100 at page 6, item 2.2
It appears that Mr Ng, in addition to being unable to fill in a form, is also incapable of reading clear instructions, much less following them.
While he should be given credit for his bravery in coming forward as a candidate, it appears to be the only positive quality we can credit him with.
In the foregoing circumstances, it would not be meaningful to bring a petition before the courts in this matter, any lateness or dispute of the meaning in s 29(2) would not materially affect the result of the election given the deemed withdrawal of the candidates under s 28(1A). This is because the relief prayer for is unlikely to be granted.
Be that as it may, I note that the Elections Department now say that 12 noon sharp is acceptable, whilst being careful to state that the candidates only attempted to submit the papers after 12.01 pm. In the next election, I look forward to seeing either explicit wording of the PE Act changed – or the practice or the clocks to be changed.
While I disagree with the Election Departments statement of facts about the candidates submitting the forms after 12.01 pm, having been a personal witness to the event some 2-3 meters away, I was not at the table itself. The best clarification would be to request that the Elections Department adduce all the evidence at hand. This course of action would be in the interests of public fairness and maintain public confidence in the integrity of our institutions, of which the Elections Department is a main pillar. I will be writing a last letter requesting the Returning Officers report, as well as the video evidence made available, as is likely, given that a precedent has been set by the matter of James Gomez nomination in 2006 where the Elections Department, of their own accord, produced the evidence.
I wish to thank you all for your time and interest in this matter and hope that we will continue to remain in contact.
Please circulate this message to all friends who may be interested in this matter, however as a matter of consideration, remove the e-mails of people who have previously been addressed by this e-mail.
I hope that this chain of correspondence, together with explanations, will lay to rest the unfounded allegations that have been circulating about the Elections Department during this general election.
I believe sincerely in the integrity of our civil service and hope that you will, after considering this matter in its’ entirety, share the same belief too.
In Friendship,
Karen Teoh
From: Seng Lup LEE (ELD)
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 3:52 PM
To: Karen Lau
Cc:
Subject: RE: Legal Issue Regarding Returning Officers Time for Closing of Nomination and Rejection of Opposition Candidates
Message Classification: Unclassified
Dear Karen,
I refer to your email of 27 April 2011, 7.43pm.
2 Section 29 of the Parliamentary Elections Act ("Act") requires candidates seeking nomination as a group in a Group Representation Constituency (“GRC”) to personally deliver to the Returning Officer in duplicate their nomination paper, political donation certificates of each of the candidates in the group and the GRC certificate on minority candidature between 11 a.m. and 12 noon (both times inclusive). They must be accompanied by the candidates’ proposer, seconder and at least 4 assentors (hereafter collectively referred to as “subscribers”). The Act also says that if not so delivered, the paper shall be rejected.
3 Section 28 of the Act further requires each candidate in the group to deposit $16,000 with the Returning Officer by 12 noon of Nomination Day. The law does not permit the candidates to stand for election in the GRC if they fail to make the election deposits by 12 noon.
4 Ample notice of how and when nomination papers and supporting documents have to be delivered and election deposits have to be made was given to aspiring candidates through various channels, such as the Elections Department website, the candidates handbook published by the Elections Department and the press release issued by the Elections Department on 25 April 2011.
5 On Nomination Day, the group of aspiring candidates seeking election in the Tanjong Pagar electoral division turned up at the Nomination Centre at Singapore Chinese Girls’ School. They made 2 attempts to deliver their nomination paper but both attempts were not in accordance with the provisions of the Act.
6 The first attempt was made about 2 minutes before 12 noon by only one of the aspiring candidates. The person delivered a nomination paper, unaccompanied by the other 4 aspiring candidates in his group and the group’s subscribers. The person also did not deliver the supporting documents required under the Act. As the other 4 aspiring candidates in the group and the subscribers were not present and the supporting documents were not presented when the nomination paper was delivered, the nomination paper was rejected. The Elections Department’s inquiries have also revealed that at the time of the first attempt, the 5 aspiring candidates had also not made their statutory declarations in the nomination paper as required by the Act.
7 At 12.00 noon, the Group Assistant Returning Officer announced that nominations were closed. If any set of nomination papers had been delivered at 12.00 noon sharp, it would have been accepted. However, the second attempt to deliver the nomination papers was made by the aspiring candidates slightly after 12.01 p.m. As the second attempt was made after the time permitted under the Act, the aspiring candidates’ nomination paper was rejected.
8 The Elections Department’s inquiries also revealed that the aspiring candidates in that group did not pay the election deposit of $16,000 per candidate as required under the Act.
Regards,
LEE SENG LUP
Head
Elections Department
Prime Minister’s Office
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From: Karen Lau [mailto:mrsdustinlau@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 27 April, 2011 7:43 PM
To: ELD Elections (ELD)
Cc: Seng Lup LEE (ELD); Raymond ONG (ELD); vervoon@pacific.net.sg; Dustin Lau; dinosaur@pacific.net.sg; yasser.mohamed@gmail.com; zakirh@sph.gov.sg; joshuachiang@yahoo.com; huey.ko@gmail.com; ong.liuching@gmail.com
Subject: Legal Issue Regarding Returning Officers Time for Closing of Nomination and Rejection of Opposition Candidates
Dear Sir,
My name is Karen Teoh (NRIC 791xxx4Z) and I was present at the nomination hall of Singapore Chinese Girls School (“SCGS”) today to be an assentor for the potential candidates contesting Tanjong Pagar GRC.
I refer to the phone calls between myself and your officials today, 27 January 2011.
In particular, I refer to the phonecalls between myself and your Ms Doris (assistant to Mr Lee, Head, Elections Department) at 5.19 PM and 5.32 pm, as well as to your Mr David Tay of the General Enquiries hotline at 5.45 pm and 18.02 pm.
At Mr Tay’s suggestion, I have written this e-mail to place on record our conversations to enable the Elections Department to look into my complaint more effectively.
I was informed by Mr Tay at 6.18 pm that Mr Raymond Lim, Assistant Head (Policy and Programmes), Elections Department considers the standard procedure of the Elections Department and Returning Officer in concluding that nominations close at 12 noon sharp as correct practice. As this is hearsay, I would seek your indulgence in setting out in your written reply to me that this is in fact the case, or if not, the standard procedure of the Elections Department and its returning officers.
However, I must respectfully disagree with the Election Departments position. An accepted cannon of interpretation is that the phrase “both dates inclusive” is taken to mean to the last moment possible moment of the inclusive date. The time period thus expires on the start of the next date. For example, the phrase “the offer is good from 1 January 2011 to 7 January 2007 (both dates inclusive)” means that the offer is valid until the last moment of 7 January 2007. The offer for both dates inclusive therefore only truly expires on the first moment of 8 January 2007, being midnight, 8 January or 12.00am. A similar reasoning would therefore follow interpretations of time, which are but a smaller subset of dates.
In this respect, I refer you to s 29(2) of the Parliamentary Elections Act (Cap. 218), which states:
“s29...(2) Every such nomination paper and certificate shall be delivered to the Returning Officer, in duplicate and in person, by the person seeking nomination accompanied by his proposer, seconder and at least 4 assentors, at the place of nomination between 11 a.m. and 12 noon (both times inclusive) on the day of nomination, and if not so delivered, shall be rejected.
[18/2005]
At the same time, I noted that the Returning Officer announced at 12:00 sharp on the clock at the Nomination Hall that the nominations were closed. Thereafter, the independent candidates rushed over to submit their papers. The clock had not yet chimed 12:01. Myself, together with the other assentors and seconders stood some distance, maybe 3 to 4 rows of chairs away.
An argument went on for some time about the closing of the period for the submission of nomination forms between the potential candidates from the opposition and the returning officers, whom were all highly commendable for remaining calm, civil and pleasant in the circumstances.
However, I believe that closing the nominations at 12:00 noon sharp by the returning officer is in error, as the phrase referring to “between 11 a.m. and 12 noon (both times inclusive)” is quite explicit to the contrary. I apologise that I have only written to you at this late hour as I did not have access to the specific wording of the Parliamentary Elections Act (Cap 218) until I returned home.
The legal and correct answer to when nomination closes turns on what time 12 noon is over, as the statute is explicit about “(both times inclusive)”. This is, in turn based on the smallest unit of measurement on the clock used. The clock used at the SCGS measures time only in units of minutes and not seconds and it would therefore be 12:01 PM that noon is officially over. If it was meant to be 12 noon sharp, then the statute should be explicit about it. However, the clear wording of the statute is to the contrary, being “between 11 a.m. and 12 noon (both times inclusive)”.
I understand that this has likely never been the case since very few independent candidates have been this tardy and disorganized and it is a novel nexus of facts and law that has yet to be considered in Singapore.
However, in the circumstances, given that several interpretations are possible and there accepted rules of interpretation do not favour the Elections department construction of the rule, the best party to answer would be the Court of Appeal of the Supreme Court of Singapore. I respectfully and strongly urge the Elections Department to undertaken this course of action as no present or future allegations of bias online against the Elections Departments good standing would therefore be possible.
Justice must be seen to be done and I hope that the Elections Department will continue to serve all Singaporeans as faithfully and effectively as it has done in previous elections.
Yours in Friendship,
Karen Teoh
************
You'd think with so much riding on his shoulders, and so much goodwill and money poured into his cause the man would have wanted to treat this like... an election... and not a used-car purchase, and put his - oh wait, no - other people's damn money down.
Aside from that, looks like 35 seconds now 1:35min too late.
I think that's called red shift...
.by Karen Teoh on Monday, 02 May 2011 at 18:25.Edits made to painfully bloody obvious typos.
YOU HAVE MY PERMISSION TO REPOST THIS IS WHICHEVER FORUM OF YOUR CHOOSING.
Friends,
Please see the e-mail reply below from the elections department, the contents of which are self explanatory.
As a matter of further clarification, I personally called Mr Ng Teck Siong at 16:22 pm today and he picked up the phone.
I introduced myself as one of the assentors on nomination day and asked him about whether he had paid the elections deposit.
Mr Ng Teck Siong told me, with supreme conviction that “I don’t pay the election deposit because they never process the nomination form”, confirming the statements made by Mr Lee of the Elections Department.
Unfortunately, the explicit wording of the statute, as well as instructions to candidate issued by the elections department do not support his supreme conviction.
In fact, a contrary view is held as to the nomination process. The relevant sections and links to documents are here:
Parliamentary Elections Act (Cap. 218) (“The PE Act”)
Deposits by candidates
28. —(1) A candidate, or some person on his behalf, shall deposit or cause to be deposited with the Returning Officer or with some person authorised by the Returning Officer in that behalf, between the date of the issue of the writ referred to in section 24 and 12 noon of the day of nomination, a sum equal to 8% of the total allowances payable to a Member of Parliament in the preceding calendar year, rounded to the nearest $500.
(1A) In default of the sum being so deposited under subsection (1), the candidate shall be deemed to have withdrawn his candidature under section 32
http://www.elections.gov.sg/pdf/PEC_handbook.pdf#zoom=100 at page 6, item 2.2
It appears that Mr Ng, in addition to being unable to fill in a form, is also incapable of reading clear instructions, much less following them.
While he should be given credit for his bravery in coming forward as a candidate, it appears to be the only positive quality we can credit him with.
In the foregoing circumstances, it would not be meaningful to bring a petition before the courts in this matter, any lateness or dispute of the meaning in s 29(2) would not materially affect the result of the election given the deemed withdrawal of the candidates under s 28(1A). This is because the relief prayer for is unlikely to be granted.
Be that as it may, I note that the Elections Department now say that 12 noon sharp is acceptable, whilst being careful to state that the candidates only attempted to submit the papers after 12.01 pm. In the next election, I look forward to seeing either explicit wording of the PE Act changed – or the practice or the clocks to be changed.
While I disagree with the Election Departments statement of facts about the candidates submitting the forms after 12.01 pm, having been a personal witness to the event some 2-3 meters away, I was not at the table itself. The best clarification would be to request that the Elections Department adduce all the evidence at hand. This course of action would be in the interests of public fairness and maintain public confidence in the integrity of our institutions, of which the Elections Department is a main pillar. I will be writing a last letter requesting the Returning Officers report, as well as the video evidence made available, as is likely, given that a precedent has been set by the matter of James Gomez nomination in 2006 where the Elections Department, of their own accord, produced the evidence.
I wish to thank you all for your time and interest in this matter and hope that we will continue to remain in contact.
Please circulate this message to all friends who may be interested in this matter, however as a matter of consideration, remove the e-mails of people who have previously been addressed by this e-mail.
I hope that this chain of correspondence, together with explanations, will lay to rest the unfounded allegations that have been circulating about the Elections Department during this general election.
I believe sincerely in the integrity of our civil service and hope that you will, after considering this matter in its’ entirety, share the same belief too.
In Friendship,
Karen Teoh
From: Seng Lup LEE (ELD)
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 3:52 PM
To: Karen Lau
Cc:
Subject: RE: Legal Issue Regarding Returning Officers Time for Closing of Nomination and Rejection of Opposition Candidates
Message Classification: Unclassified
Dear Karen,
I refer to your email of 27 April 2011, 7.43pm.
2 Section 29 of the Parliamentary Elections Act ("Act") requires candidates seeking nomination as a group in a Group Representation Constituency (“GRC”) to personally deliver to the Returning Officer in duplicate their nomination paper, political donation certificates of each of the candidates in the group and the GRC certificate on minority candidature between 11 a.m. and 12 noon (both times inclusive). They must be accompanied by the candidates’ proposer, seconder and at least 4 assentors (hereafter collectively referred to as “subscribers”). The Act also says that if not so delivered, the paper shall be rejected.
3 Section 28 of the Act further requires each candidate in the group to deposit $16,000 with the Returning Officer by 12 noon of Nomination Day. The law does not permit the candidates to stand for election in the GRC if they fail to make the election deposits by 12 noon.
4 Ample notice of how and when nomination papers and supporting documents have to be delivered and election deposits have to be made was given to aspiring candidates through various channels, such as the Elections Department website, the candidates handbook published by the Elections Department and the press release issued by the Elections Department on 25 April 2011.
5 On Nomination Day, the group of aspiring candidates seeking election in the Tanjong Pagar electoral division turned up at the Nomination Centre at Singapore Chinese Girls’ School. They made 2 attempts to deliver their nomination paper but both attempts were not in accordance with the provisions of the Act.
6 The first attempt was made about 2 minutes before 12 noon by only one of the aspiring candidates. The person delivered a nomination paper, unaccompanied by the other 4 aspiring candidates in his group and the group’s subscribers. The person also did not deliver the supporting documents required under the Act. As the other 4 aspiring candidates in the group and the subscribers were not present and the supporting documents were not presented when the nomination paper was delivered, the nomination paper was rejected. The Elections Department’s inquiries have also revealed that at the time of the first attempt, the 5 aspiring candidates had also not made their statutory declarations in the nomination paper as required by the Act.
7 At 12.00 noon, the Group Assistant Returning Officer announced that nominations were closed. If any set of nomination papers had been delivered at 12.00 noon sharp, it would have been accepted. However, the second attempt to deliver the nomination papers was made by the aspiring candidates slightly after 12.01 p.m. As the second attempt was made after the time permitted under the Act, the aspiring candidates’ nomination paper was rejected.
8 The Elections Department’s inquiries also revealed that the aspiring candidates in that group did not pay the election deposit of $16,000 per candidate as required under the Act.
Regards,
LEE SENG LUP
Head
Elections Department
Prime Minister’s Office
Visit our website at http://www.elections.gov.sg/
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From: Karen Lau [mailto:mrsdustinlau@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 27 April, 2011 7:43 PM
To: ELD Elections (ELD)
Cc: Seng Lup LEE (ELD); Raymond ONG (ELD); vervoon@pacific.net.sg; Dustin Lau; dinosaur@pacific.net.sg; yasser.mohamed@gmail.com; zakirh@sph.gov.sg; joshuachiang@yahoo.com; huey.ko@gmail.com; ong.liuching@gmail.com
Subject: Legal Issue Regarding Returning Officers Time for Closing of Nomination and Rejection of Opposition Candidates
Dear Sir,
My name is Karen Teoh (NRIC 791xxx4Z) and I was present at the nomination hall of Singapore Chinese Girls School (“SCGS”) today to be an assentor for the potential candidates contesting Tanjong Pagar GRC.
I refer to the phone calls between myself and your officials today, 27 January 2011.
In particular, I refer to the phonecalls between myself and your Ms Doris (assistant to Mr Lee, Head, Elections Department) at 5.19 PM and 5.32 pm, as well as to your Mr David Tay of the General Enquiries hotline at 5.45 pm and 18.02 pm.
At Mr Tay’s suggestion, I have written this e-mail to place on record our conversations to enable the Elections Department to look into my complaint more effectively.
I was informed by Mr Tay at 6.18 pm that Mr Raymond Lim, Assistant Head (Policy and Programmes), Elections Department considers the standard procedure of the Elections Department and Returning Officer in concluding that nominations close at 12 noon sharp as correct practice. As this is hearsay, I would seek your indulgence in setting out in your written reply to me that this is in fact the case, or if not, the standard procedure of the Elections Department and its returning officers.
However, I must respectfully disagree with the Election Departments position. An accepted cannon of interpretation is that the phrase “both dates inclusive” is taken to mean to the last moment possible moment of the inclusive date. The time period thus expires on the start of the next date. For example, the phrase “the offer is good from 1 January 2011 to 7 January 2007 (both dates inclusive)” means that the offer is valid until the last moment of 7 January 2007. The offer for both dates inclusive therefore only truly expires on the first moment of 8 January 2007, being midnight, 8 January or 12.00am. A similar reasoning would therefore follow interpretations of time, which are but a smaller subset of dates.
In this respect, I refer you to s 29(2) of the Parliamentary Elections Act (Cap. 218), which states:
“s29...(2) Every such nomination paper and certificate shall be delivered to the Returning Officer, in duplicate and in person, by the person seeking nomination accompanied by his proposer, seconder and at least 4 assentors, at the place of nomination between 11 a.m. and 12 noon (both times inclusive) on the day of nomination, and if not so delivered, shall be rejected.
[18/2005]
At the same time, I noted that the Returning Officer announced at 12:00 sharp on the clock at the Nomination Hall that the nominations were closed. Thereafter, the independent candidates rushed over to submit their papers. The clock had not yet chimed 12:01. Myself, together with the other assentors and seconders stood some distance, maybe 3 to 4 rows of chairs away.
An argument went on for some time about the closing of the period for the submission of nomination forms between the potential candidates from the opposition and the returning officers, whom were all highly commendable for remaining calm, civil and pleasant in the circumstances.
However, I believe that closing the nominations at 12:00 noon sharp by the returning officer is in error, as the phrase referring to “between 11 a.m. and 12 noon (both times inclusive)” is quite explicit to the contrary. I apologise that I have only written to you at this late hour as I did not have access to the specific wording of the Parliamentary Elections Act (Cap 218) until I returned home.
The legal and correct answer to when nomination closes turns on what time 12 noon is over, as the statute is explicit about “(both times inclusive)”. This is, in turn based on the smallest unit of measurement on the clock used. The clock used at the SCGS measures time only in units of minutes and not seconds and it would therefore be 12:01 PM that noon is officially over. If it was meant to be 12 noon sharp, then the statute should be explicit about it. However, the clear wording of the statute is to the contrary, being “between 11 a.m. and 12 noon (both times inclusive)”.
I understand that this has likely never been the case since very few independent candidates have been this tardy and disorganized and it is a novel nexus of facts and law that has yet to be considered in Singapore.
However, in the circumstances, given that several interpretations are possible and there accepted rules of interpretation do not favour the Elections department construction of the rule, the best party to answer would be the Court of Appeal of the Supreme Court of Singapore. I respectfully and strongly urge the Elections Department to undertaken this course of action as no present or future allegations of bias online against the Elections Departments good standing would therefore be possible.
Justice must be seen to be done and I hope that the Elections Department will continue to serve all Singaporeans as faithfully and effectively as it has done in previous elections.
Yours in Friendship,
Karen Teoh
************
You'd think with so much riding on his shoulders, and so much goodwill and money poured into his cause the man would have wanted to treat this like... an election... and not a used-car purchase, and put his - oh wait, no - other people's damn money down.
Aside from that, looks like 35 seconds now 1:35min too late.
I think that's called red shift...
Monday, May 2, 2011
Sunday, May 1, 2011
Normalizing the curves
cut and pasted from TODAYonline. Translated into EasySpeak (tm)
5 questions with: Tin Pei Ling and Nicole Seah
The full Q&A with the rookie PAP and NSP candidates for Marine Parade GRC
by Sheralyn Tay and Tan Weizhen 05:35 AM May 01, 2011
What is the single biggest concern you have about Singapore?
Ms Tin Pei Ling: The single biggest concern I have for Singapore is the long term sustainability of the development of Singapore. I think there are a few dimensions to it. First and foremost while we don't want to just focus on the economy, I think it is very important because without the overall success of the economy, we won't have jobs for our people. Without jobs, without income, it is very hard for Singaporeans to lead a good quality of life or to even survive. If you ask me what is the biggest concern, it is the survival of Singapore; not just domestically, but regionally and internationally. It is about ensuring there are jobs and a future for Singaporeans - for us, our children and our children's children
Easyspeak
Biggest Concern: Next Time Money No Enough.
we need to focus on other things aside from money too.
like next time money no enough. jobs no enough - children no work, no money!
(dunno what happened to the other things.)
Ms Nicole Seah: I think the single biggest concern I have about Singapore, and this is the same concern that propelled me to join the Opposition, is the fact that we are growing so fast economically as a nation and in the process we are leaving many Singaporeans behind. I think that the aim of a government is to look out for the welfare of the people. I'm not advocating a welfare state where people become overly dependent but I think the current approach to taking care of the disenfranchised in society is minimalist, and I think that a lot more can be done to at least ensure that their basic needs are being met.
EasySpeak
Biggest concern: Welfare no enough - right now. Basic needs not met.
Want more welfare - but not too much that people become lazy bastards.
How fix? A lot more can be done... (not specified how.)
At what point would you draw the line between useful online criticism and ranting you would ignore?
Easyspeak : What is useful Internet criticism and what is not?
Ms Tin: For online discussions, if it is for personal stuff, then I think these can be put aside. What is more important is the discussion of issues. There is a lot of space and potential to do that online. Many of the younger generation spend a lot of time online, and this is an avenue whereby it would be useful to engage the younger ones. Because online is anytime, anywhere you have connection - 3G for example, you can do it anywhere. I think it is an important area that we should not neglect. At the same time what is on the ground is very important. Physically we are here, the problems municipally are here. We see for ourselves, we hear for ourselves, we talk to residents. I think that is very important, so I would not say online is the sole important avenue.
Easyspeak
Where draw line? If too personal, /ignore.
Useful criticism: not answered.
But internet is good place, is has many young people to talk to. and you can do it anywhere. and we are on the ground with the problems, we see, we hear, we talk. other places is good too.
Ms Seah: I am very mindful of all the comments I receive online. I know that a lot of them are quite positive, but at the same time I do pay very strong attention to the neutral or the negative comments because I feel they have identified my gaps and that is how I can improve. However I draw the line at personal attacks; I draw the line at comments that doubt my capability based on very personal things such as the way I talk, the way I dress, the way I look. These are things that I do not entertain as constructive feedback.
I would not respond to such comments at all. I haven't had the time to respond to all the comments but I do take note of the constructive feedback, and I do work it into the way I present myself. For example, there have been quite a few comments saying, 'all of you have correctly identified the problems facing Singapore today as a result of the policies, but what are the proposals to counter this?'. This is something I have been trying to formulate - we already have a manifesto in place but I need to share more of our manifesto at the rally so as to let people know what our solutions are, and that alternative parties do have viable solutions to be presented.
Easyspeak
Where draw line? If personal attacks that are irrelevant. /ignore
Useful criticism: Everything that not personal attack can be useful.
Want to say how fix problems (next time.)
Should the voting age be lowered?
Ms Tin: It is a matter of calibration. Where do you draw the line? For now it has always been set at 21. Perhaps we can commission a study and see at which point - from a human development point of view - is a person mature enough to decide for the long term. As long as you are clear about what you want in the future, that is the right age. Twenty-one is probably an arbitrary criteria, in my view. If you ask me whether it should go up or go down, I can't say for sure until there is a study done.
Easyspeak
Is should have younger voters : Is not sure.
How old : now is 21. must commission study and see when peoples become smart enough to think. only after study then decide.
Ms Seah: I think it's a pity that even at the university level there are many who are still quite politically apathetic, or at least that was the feeling I got from my time at NUS. I think in other developed democracies there are a lot of kids who take an interest in politics at a younger age. But I think the tide is changing, I think this elections there are younger Singaporeans who are not eligible to vote but they are already concerned about the issues at hand. They are taking the time to read up and find out more. That's a very encouraging sign.
I feel that in junior college and polytechnic level, the kind of learning they go through is based on a lot of questioning, a lot of reasoning, a lot of critical thinking. I think by then they should be able to develop their political views already. It would be a pity if at age 18 they are mature enough to think critically about other things but yet politics is still off limits to them. I do think that the voting age should be lowered to 18.
Easyspeak
Is should have younger voters : Yes.
How old : 18
Why : They already learned how to think smart.
What do you think constituents above the age of 50 are most worried about?
Ms Tin: There are two things. One is in terms of the infrastrucure. The elderly are physically older, so the way they move is slower and they need a lot of care and attention. We need to make sure that their access to amenties and facilties is easy. In Macpherson we have done a lot of upgrading in the past years, and we have almost completed all the barrier-free access across Macperhson to help our elderly move around, interact with people and better use the facilities and services. The other thing is to help them cope with the cost of living. Many are retired or retiring. Especially those who are retired, they have no source of income. A lot of them come from lower income families so they are also struggling to make ends meet. So financially, it can be a challenge. I think these are the two areas of concern. It is not just in Macpherson, but nationally as well.
Easyspeak
what oldies worried about? 1) Cannot walk, cannot get around. 2) high cost of living
how fix: 1) make easier to get around. 2) it can be a challenge across whole country... (=not addressed)
Ms Seah: After doing our rounds the feedback we have gotten is that old people are very worried about falling ill. I think they are starting to recognise that healthcare costs are getting more and more exorbitant in Singapore. As a result they are very afraid to fall sick and be a burden to their families. On top of that the rising cost of living is another issue. This eats into their daily expenses for their very staple necessities, like the food they need to eat at the hawker centres, things like that. So I think that they do feel the pinch that has arisen from the recent inflation and tax increases.
Easyspeak
What oldies worried about : Falling sick. Rising costs of healthcare, burden on family. High cost of living.
How fix: (not addressed)
(To Ms Tin) What do you appreciate most about the Opposition today?
Ms Tin: I think they are definitely more more courageous today. I can see that out of the 87 seats, 82 are contested. I think that is a good sign. Having a contest is something we should encourage. At the end of the day it is a contest of ideas. We should definitely give the option to Singaporeans. It is also in a way a report card of the party as well, to see if we have done well in the past years. I think it is something that is valuable and important
Easyspeak
Why I like opposition : they are braver now. They give report card.
(To Ms Seah) What do you appreciate the most about the PAP today?
Ms Seah: I think one thing we cannot deny - they have developed Singapore from a small fishing village to a robust economy. And I think they have done a good job putting Singapore on the world map, so events such as F1 have drummed up a fair bit of interest overseas. I do feel the spillover effect as a result of this, where you have tourists coming in, making use of the amenities. I do still feel that more can be done for the local merchants during this time, as there are some people who still complain traffic to their shops remains slow during this period and it affects their business. So I think more measures can be put in place. But overall, events like F1 have done well to raise the visibility of Singapore as a country.
Easyspeak
Why I like PAP : They is doing good till now.
F1 is very important.
(The interviews were conducted separately and face to face.)
5 questions with: Tin Pei Ling and Nicole Seah
The full Q&A with the rookie PAP and NSP candidates for Marine Parade GRC
by Sheralyn Tay and Tan Weizhen 05:35 AM May 01, 2011
What is the single biggest concern you have about Singapore?
Ms Tin Pei Ling: The single biggest concern I have for Singapore is the long term sustainability of the development of Singapore. I think there are a few dimensions to it. First and foremost while we don't want to just focus on the economy, I think it is very important because without the overall success of the economy, we won't have jobs for our people. Without jobs, without income, it is very hard for Singaporeans to lead a good quality of life or to even survive. If you ask me what is the biggest concern, it is the survival of Singapore; not just domestically, but regionally and internationally. It is about ensuring there are jobs and a future for Singaporeans - for us, our children and our children's children
Easyspeak
Biggest Concern: Next Time Money No Enough.
we need to focus on other things aside from money too.
like next time money no enough. jobs no enough - children no work, no money!
(dunno what happened to the other things.)
Ms Nicole Seah: I think the single biggest concern I have about Singapore, and this is the same concern that propelled me to join the Opposition, is the fact that we are growing so fast economically as a nation and in the process we are leaving many Singaporeans behind. I think that the aim of a government is to look out for the welfare of the people. I'm not advocating a welfare state where people become overly dependent but I think the current approach to taking care of the disenfranchised in society is minimalist, and I think that a lot more can be done to at least ensure that their basic needs are being met.
EasySpeak
Biggest concern: Welfare no enough - right now. Basic needs not met.
Want more welfare - but not too much that people become lazy bastards.
How fix? A lot more can be done... (not specified how.)
At what point would you draw the line between useful online criticism and ranting you would ignore?
Easyspeak : What is useful Internet criticism and what is not?
Ms Tin: For online discussions, if it is for personal stuff, then I think these can be put aside. What is more important is the discussion of issues. There is a lot of space and potential to do that online. Many of the younger generation spend a lot of time online, and this is an avenue whereby it would be useful to engage the younger ones. Because online is anytime, anywhere you have connection - 3G for example, you can do it anywhere. I think it is an important area that we should not neglect. At the same time what is on the ground is very important. Physically we are here, the problems municipally are here. We see for ourselves, we hear for ourselves, we talk to residents. I think that is very important, so I would not say online is the sole important avenue.
Easyspeak
Where draw line? If too personal, /ignore.
Useful criticism: not answered.
But internet is good place, is has many young people to talk to. and you can do it anywhere. and we are on the ground with the problems, we see, we hear, we talk. other places is good too.
Ms Seah: I am very mindful of all the comments I receive online. I know that a lot of them are quite positive, but at the same time I do pay very strong attention to the neutral or the negative comments because I feel they have identified my gaps and that is how I can improve. However I draw the line at personal attacks; I draw the line at comments that doubt my capability based on very personal things such as the way I talk, the way I dress, the way I look. These are things that I do not entertain as constructive feedback.
I would not respond to such comments at all. I haven't had the time to respond to all the comments but I do take note of the constructive feedback, and I do work it into the way I present myself. For example, there have been quite a few comments saying, 'all of you have correctly identified the problems facing Singapore today as a result of the policies, but what are the proposals to counter this?'. This is something I have been trying to formulate - we already have a manifesto in place but I need to share more of our manifesto at the rally so as to let people know what our solutions are, and that alternative parties do have viable solutions to be presented.
Easyspeak
Where draw line? If personal attacks that are irrelevant. /ignore
Useful criticism: Everything that not personal attack can be useful.
Want to say how fix problems (next time.)
Should the voting age be lowered?
Ms Tin: It is a matter of calibration. Where do you draw the line? For now it has always been set at 21. Perhaps we can commission a study and see at which point - from a human development point of view - is a person mature enough to decide for the long term. As long as you are clear about what you want in the future, that is the right age. Twenty-one is probably an arbitrary criteria, in my view. If you ask me whether it should go up or go down, I can't say for sure until there is a study done.
Easyspeak
Is should have younger voters : Is not sure.
How old : now is 21. must commission study and see when peoples become smart enough to think. only after study then decide.
Ms Seah: I think it's a pity that even at the university level there are many who are still quite politically apathetic, or at least that was the feeling I got from my time at NUS. I think in other developed democracies there are a lot of kids who take an interest in politics at a younger age. But I think the tide is changing, I think this elections there are younger Singaporeans who are not eligible to vote but they are already concerned about the issues at hand. They are taking the time to read up and find out more. That's a very encouraging sign.
I feel that in junior college and polytechnic level, the kind of learning they go through is based on a lot of questioning, a lot of reasoning, a lot of critical thinking. I think by then they should be able to develop their political views already. It would be a pity if at age 18 they are mature enough to think critically about other things but yet politics is still off limits to them. I do think that the voting age should be lowered to 18.
Easyspeak
Is should have younger voters : Yes.
How old : 18
Why : They already learned how to think smart.
What do you think constituents above the age of 50 are most worried about?
Ms Tin: There are two things. One is in terms of the infrastrucure. The elderly are physically older, so the way they move is slower and they need a lot of care and attention. We need to make sure that their access to amenties and facilties is easy. In Macpherson we have done a lot of upgrading in the past years, and we have almost completed all the barrier-free access across Macperhson to help our elderly move around, interact with people and better use the facilities and services. The other thing is to help them cope with the cost of living. Many are retired or retiring. Especially those who are retired, they have no source of income. A lot of them come from lower income families so they are also struggling to make ends meet. So financially, it can be a challenge. I think these are the two areas of concern. It is not just in Macpherson, but nationally as well.
Easyspeak
what oldies worried about? 1) Cannot walk, cannot get around. 2) high cost of living
how fix: 1) make easier to get around. 2) it can be a challenge across whole country... (=not addressed)
Ms Seah: After doing our rounds the feedback we have gotten is that old people are very worried about falling ill. I think they are starting to recognise that healthcare costs are getting more and more exorbitant in Singapore. As a result they are very afraid to fall sick and be a burden to their families. On top of that the rising cost of living is another issue. This eats into their daily expenses for their very staple necessities, like the food they need to eat at the hawker centres, things like that. So I think that they do feel the pinch that has arisen from the recent inflation and tax increases.
Easyspeak
What oldies worried about : Falling sick. Rising costs of healthcare, burden on family. High cost of living.
How fix: (not addressed)
(To Ms Tin) What do you appreciate most about the Opposition today?
Ms Tin: I think they are definitely more more courageous today. I can see that out of the 87 seats, 82 are contested. I think that is a good sign. Having a contest is something we should encourage. At the end of the day it is a contest of ideas. We should definitely give the option to Singaporeans. It is also in a way a report card of the party as well, to see if we have done well in the past years. I think it is something that is valuable and important
Easyspeak
Why I like opposition : they are braver now. They give report card.
(To Ms Seah) What do you appreciate the most about the PAP today?
Ms Seah: I think one thing we cannot deny - they have developed Singapore from a small fishing village to a robust economy. And I think they have done a good job putting Singapore on the world map, so events such as F1 have drummed up a fair bit of interest overseas. I do feel the spillover effect as a result of this, where you have tourists coming in, making use of the amenities. I do still feel that more can be done for the local merchants during this time, as there are some people who still complain traffic to their shops remains slow during this period and it affects their business. So I think more measures can be put in place. But overall, events like F1 have done well to raise the visibility of Singapore as a country.
Easyspeak
Why I like PAP : They is doing good till now.
F1 is very important.
(The interviews were conducted separately and face to face.)
Short cuts
A long time ago...
thirty uniformed men stood stock still in rank and file.
a senior warrant officer paced before them, glaring at them one by one.
"Gentleman, welcum to **** camp. I, am your RSM. They call me The Tiger. Tiger T**."
(very slight sniggers)
"Most important here, is don't make me angry. Duuuuuun make the Tiger Bark at you!"
(choked back laughter)
he stops pacing.
"What? Why you laugh??"
"still laugh! You young people... the more I talking, the worse I get!"
(hysterical laughter)
thirty uniformed men stood stock still in rank and file.
a senior warrant officer paced before them, glaring at them one by one.
"Gentleman, welcum to **** camp. I, am your RSM. They call me The Tiger. Tiger T**."
(very slight sniggers)
"Most important here, is don't make me angry. Duuuuuun make the Tiger Bark at you!"
(choked back laughter)
he stops pacing.
"What? Why you laugh??"
"still laugh! You young people... the more I talking, the worse I get!"
(hysterical laughter)
Change
Everyone's saying it. Change, you can feel it. Change is around the corner.
You know what my greatest problem is with this elections?
We have gone from being politically apathetic to politically angry.
We - read the youth, the sub thirty-fives, and the not-so-youths, the greater than thirty fives.
We the people, one people, one nation...
We haven't gone from politically apathetic to politically aware; we've gone from politically apathetic to politically stupid.
I'm as much a fan of the underdog as everyone else; I have the same grouses as everyone else.
But I want to listen, and hear the words. I don't want to hear what I want to hear - I want to understand what the speakers are saying.
Loud, amazonian words that echo with resounding conviction sound very nice. They look nice too, like a scene from Braveheart. But if all that comes out is "we need an opposition, we need checks and balances so the government cannot run rampant over us" - Over, and over. and over again.
Well, that's not helping is it? Re-stating the perceived problem over and over again doesn't make you a leader in my eyes. It makes you repetitive. It makes your fiery words nothing more than propaganda, of a different form.
The office analogy.
I can see that the photocopier is on the fritz, and the coffee machine is bust.
If I keep saying it loudly enough, does that mean I get to be manager?
If I accuse the manager of slacking off enough, does that mean I can do his job?
Obviously not.
If I want CHANGE, I have to:
a) call a repairman in, get everything fixed up and pay for it out of my pocket - basically do his job, myself, because I am interested in the job getting done and fixing the problem. I can do his job, but I really just want the job done.
or
b) speak to HIS boss, tell him how he is slacking off, and propose a solution: I can call this repairman, this is the number, I've gotten quotes, this is the cheapest, I want reimbursement..... - basically offer to do his job so that someone will see I am better than he is, and give me his job. I can do his job, and I want his job.
If all I do is make the whole office aware of a problem that they're already aware of, does that make me managerial material?
Hopes are running high as the herds work themselves up, listening to inspirational drivel.
I'm feeling a little disappointed.
You know what my greatest problem is with this elections?
We have gone from being politically apathetic to politically angry.
We - read the youth, the sub thirty-fives, and the not-so-youths, the greater than thirty fives.
We the people, one people, one nation...
We haven't gone from politically apathetic to politically aware; we've gone from politically apathetic to politically stupid.
I'm as much a fan of the underdog as everyone else; I have the same grouses as everyone else.
But I want to listen, and hear the words. I don't want to hear what I want to hear - I want to understand what the speakers are saying.
Loud, amazonian words that echo with resounding conviction sound very nice. They look nice too, like a scene from Braveheart. But if all that comes out is "we need an opposition, we need checks and balances so the government cannot run rampant over us" - Over, and over. and over again.
Well, that's not helping is it? Re-stating the perceived problem over and over again doesn't make you a leader in my eyes. It makes you repetitive. It makes your fiery words nothing more than propaganda, of a different form.
The office analogy.
I can see that the photocopier is on the fritz, and the coffee machine is bust.
If I keep saying it loudly enough, does that mean I get to be manager?
If I accuse the manager of slacking off enough, does that mean I can do his job?
Obviously not.
If I want CHANGE, I have to:
a) call a repairman in, get everything fixed up and pay for it out of my pocket - basically do his job, myself, because I am interested in the job getting done and fixing the problem. I can do his job, but I really just want the job done.
or
b) speak to HIS boss, tell him how he is slacking off, and propose a solution: I can call this repairman, this is the number, I've gotten quotes, this is the cheapest, I want reimbursement..... - basically offer to do his job so that someone will see I am better than he is, and give me his job. I can do his job, and I want his job.
If all I do is make the whole office aware of a problem that they're already aware of, does that make me managerial material?
Hopes are running high as the herds work themselves up, listening to inspirational drivel.
I'm feeling a little disappointed.
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