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Now for something totally different. Give the loons the flick for a while and have a look at life and associated matters..

I occasionally flick through my own list of blogs that I follow and one of the interesting ones is Dalrock. he visits areas of interest concerning the heart rather then sexual politics and deconstructionist mayhem..

The subject of one of his posts was "Gaming the misses" which was rather interesting as I know some of you guys out there are hitched or have a partner, so looking at this may be beneficial as no one wants anyone to be screwed in the divorce courts if it's just a matter of making her "feel" loved and appreciated..
You and I have both seen guys who bend over backwards to keep the little woman happy as it is what we have been told, coerced and trained to do. Amazingly enough, those precise actions may even create the exact situation that one is trying to avoid. Dalrock had that same problem and here is how he worked that out..

She felt unloved.


AN excerpt..

The first difficult period came fairly early in our marriage.  My wife was still in school and I had slipped into a more beta frame.  The combination of my increased betaness and her being surrounded by other men created some strain on our marriage.  She fitness tested me with some regularity, and while I generally passed them I didn’t always come through with flying colors.  During this period my wife actually figured out part of what was going on.  She would lay into me for something trivial, and after a period of trying to placate her I would eventually find something else to do which was away from her.  My thought process wasn’t to try to game her, but I figured why hang around the apartment for the weekend to get bitched out when I could be hunting or fishing instead?  On the weekends where she wasn’t testing me we were very close and I would stick around.  Then at some point she would test again and I’d be out the door with a gun or a fishing rod.  She actually figured out the pattern at some point and came to me about it.  She said she would get into a mood where she felt absolutely compelled to piss me off.  Every cell in her body was telling her she would feel better if only she provoked a fight.  Then she would do it, and I’d be out the door.  Once the fight was started but especially once I had left she felt miserable.  So she made a conscious effort not to give in to the urge;  we fought less and as a result spent much more time together.
After that things improved a great deal, and by normal standards we had a very good marriage.  However, for the first seven of the last ten years she was telling me she didn’t feel loved.  This was maddening to me because no matter what I tried it didn’t help.  I knew enough game intuitively to not go overboard on flowers, cards, etc, but when I surprised her with those it still didn’t help.  She is a natural leader so I also tried letting her make more of the decisions;  any time an opportunity came up I would make it a point to defer to her preference to show her that I loved her.  This only made the problem worse, although I didn’t make the connection at the time.  This wasn’t an acute problem, but it was a chronic one and I absolutely hated it when she brought it up because nothing I could do would make her happier.  She knew I loved her, but she didn’t feel it the way she wanted to.  It of course was equally frustrating for her as well because she kept telling me something was wrong and I wasn’t making it better.
About two years ago I stumbled onto Roissy’s site.  I knew some game informally from having watched my natural PUA roommate in college but I had not learned any of the theory.  What I had put into practice when I met my wife I had mostly lost in an effort to make my wife feel more loved.  Roissy was extremely painful to read.  I kept finding myself wanting to unknow what he had just explained, but I couldn’t stop myself from reading more.  My curiosity was more intense than my desire to hold onto the pretty lies.  After about four months of reading Roissy and the comments I had a rudimentary sense of how game worked and started experimenting on my wife with it (she didn’t even know I was reading about it).  I stopped sending her the frequent “I love you!” texts* which I had been doing in an effort to make her feel more loved.  Instead I started shooting for upped attraction.  I’ve never experienced the sexual denial that I’ve read about other husbands experiencing, but I figured a little more attraction wouldn’t hurt anything anyway.  I started objectifying my wife more, and treating her more like a possession.  I love you was out, C’mere woman! and Hey sexy wife! was in.   Instead of loving gentle hugs, I’d forcefully grab her and pull her into me;  I would mischievously cop a feel from time to time as well.
It wasn’t just my actions and words which changed however, my frame changed as well.  Had I tried these same things from my old more beta frame, they might have backfired spectacularly.  I struggle to define it, but my frame was more of a playful cocky/funnyone.  This was actually fairly natural for me, but I had made the mistake of listening to the conventional wisdom on how to please my wife.  The results were as expected more attraction from my wife.  As I mentioned this wasn’t ever a real problem before but I could tell a difference in her response to me.  Then something very startling happened;  she thanked me for finally making her feel more loved!  I had given up on that goal for the time being, and yet along with more attraction I had also inadvertently filled that nagging void which she had been feeling for so many years.
This was a huge breakthrough for me, and as I’ve learned more about game I also am able to mix in more of the comfort/beta traits.  I still tell my wife I love her, and I do surprise her with flowers from time to time, but I also gently tease her and make sure she knows she is my woman.  We are both far happier now;  game has truly done incredible things for our marriage.
*Yeah, I know.  I hate to admit that I was that guy.

I have just spent some time going over comments and an article about MRA's and the MM (Mens Movement) on In mala fida (meaning Undertaken in bad faith [latin]). The topic of this article is "Men’s Rights Activists Are Spineless Pussies".
An interesting article as you can imagine and I spent most of my time laughing at the inaneness of it all.  I could only really imagine an individual, one carrying his own little pine box to hoist himself on seeking oratory expulsion, wearing earplugs just incase someone stated anything that he could not argue against without being offensive or there may have been someone else's POV, be too confronting and he would have to pull up his little theatre box and go home..

The article does explain quite a few issues that I and many MRA's have spoken about in the past. Mainly, why it was so difficult to promote a movement that is solely concerned with giving all men and boys an equal ride with the law or reducing the negative and general societal attitude against all men which is building to a crescendo and that we should at least join together and put up some resistance before it was too late, before those laws were set in stone and more men and boys suffered or died (suicides) because of it's existence..

This attitude appears to be somewhat too difficult to comprehend as the most resistance to this movement is our own sex and it is startling to witness. Previously I posted an article from the Roissy site which took a swing at this movement as well and I did on that occasion decide that people were entitled to their own opinions as I cannot change anyone's thinking pattern, biases or preferences as that had to be self induced, that being the case I noted that whatever PUA's did was really up to them. Agree to disagree was the motto..

That all changed ofcourse by that recalcitrants article containing nothing more then abusive, hysterical rants that would have suited an eighteen year old feminist major, freshly out of gender studies and I use that example as I did come across a couple of comments from a few of those male hating feminists who stated they were looking forward to meeting these PUA's as they "knew" how to treat women on "how they should be treated" and that set off the alarm bells. Whenever feminists agree with anything men do then there is definitely a something askew.  PUA's can wrap their pussy begging attitude up into any parcel they want and rename it anyway they like but the end result will always be the same.

Here is some of that snarky smut and contemptible ranting, conspiracy theory anyone ?

The typical MRA is contemptible. Not only is he a slave, he works diligently to build his own torture chamber – which will house not only him, but also his fellow slaves and their slave children.

That’s right. In the name of parental love, you MRA’s perpetuate a system that grinds up America’s youth. Your sons become bastards and your daughters take to the pole.
I propose a new loyalty requirement: the true MRA must pay nothing – not one cent – of unmerited and extortionate alimony and child support. If he does, he is a traitor to men’s rights. He is no better than the Jews who helped Nazis kill Jews.
More of his delusional tripe here..Some of the comments are a good source of entertainment..

However, not everyone falls for the women-begging lifestyle as it does leave a lot to be desired. I have yet to meet one single man who spends his time chasing pussy, to ever be enjoying himself afterwards as the ongoing messaging, the emails and phone calls and endless abuse (when it goes wrong) is unrelenting, It costs him money just avoiding them..
 Everything has a downside and I have not heard a single word of praise pass his lips over the last five years which indicates that it's worth it, that thinking with his little head has caused him nothing but major issues. He knows better than to raise that crap with me..

A site worthy of attention on the opposing view on PUA thinking, actions and psychology also a great read. LIFESTYLE JOURNEY FOR MEN.


Paying For Sex Is More Alpha Than Using PUA Methods


• Paying money instead of using game means you don't have to change who you are. If you want to get laid, you just pay money, and your personality stays basically intact. So given a choice between the two, a truly alpha guy is more likely to just pay for sex than change parts of his personality in order to get women to have sex with him. Now some guys will say that going to prostitutes sucks because the woman doesn't actually like them, and is just doing it for money. To me, as long as I just want sex, it wouldn't matter to me anymore than if my mechanic likes me as a person. As long as he can properly service my car, that's all I really want. I'm not paying him to like me. I'm paying him to service my car, the same way I would pay a woman to satisfy me sexually. However, I would want her to respect me. That is important, the same way it's important that my mechanic respects my wishes with respect to my car.

Yesterday, I responded to an article that Roissy posted on his predominately PUA (Pick up Artists) website when the author had a little slang at MRA's and the MM in general. The item in question was included on their Manifesto post as -

7) MRAs express a female-like neuroticism because they whine and focus so much on what could happen.
My response to that item was one of incredulity, I find that the general malaise that some men have towards the Men's Movement is either nonplussed or in some cases downright blase as well as being derogatory. They interpret the behaviour to be, that either we are imagining the situation incorrectly or that there is a need for the MRM is somewhat questionable as their incomprehensible saying applies "I am alright Mate, FU", so who really give a damn about anyone else is unfortunately the attitude of some..

 Fidelbogen too, had a few words to say regarding their malaise and correctly explained the situation for what it really is along with quite a few others including myself..


Fidelbogen“What’s the difference between a PUA and an MRA? An MRA is a political thinker.
A PUA tends to be apolitical, “naturalistic” in his ethics, oriented toward the social microcosm, and more concerned with personal power and status within said microcosm.
MRAs have no “stated goals”. They are for the most part theorists and agitators. Their modus operandi is to slowly crank up the heat and pressure on feminism by means of their writings, and by indirect channels of influence. They are also highly effective in raising the level of social consciousness and bringing new recruits on board.
The unstated goal of the MRA sector is to inflict “death by a thousand cuts” upon feminism.
MRAs and PUAs, ideally, ought to exist in a happy and mutually beneficial state of symbiosis, with each attending to its duties in its own sphere. Unfortunately, one of those sectors is shitting the bed in a pretty serious way — and I shall tactfully refrain from saying which side I mean. ;)

I have in the past listed links and posted articles from the Roissy site as I found it fascinating how men could, via a set of specific routines, easily access any female company and companionship at will and that they were actually enthralled by it, was even more telling. Being able to manipulate the opposite sex at will encouraged my following of that site for reasons more of it's psychological application rather than it's inevitable outcome. The Roissy site also on the odd occasion displayed some interesting articles that were of benefit to the Movement and explained issues that not only hit the point but were soundly argued. Roissy's site for all intent and purposes is a male friendly site that promoted various positive values as well as educating Men on the methodology of poon, pussy chasing or should that be pussy worshiping..

What appalled me was the general malaise I witnessed in some of the comments as some insinuated or stated that MRA's are either frustrated men incapable of wallowing in their presumed purview of pussy worshipping (a feminist mantra) or decided that the actions undertaken were a result of being unable to pursue a normal existence with a member of the opposite sex (another feminist mantra applied) which is ofcourse totally untrue as well as an unwarranted presumption..

So this issue has been exposed as it would appear that some do consider the MRM to be something that it's not regardless of their ill considered opinion or in some cases, it did demonstrate that they were infiltrated by feminised manginas who were quite happy to put that opinion across. Some also inferred that the MGTOW movement suffered from similar causation. Both those comments are not only totally incorrect, but laughable.

Just because a man decides that pussy worshiping is not a practical or sane pastime does in no way indicate they have issues with the opposite sex as inferred. Some men choose to not spend their time chasing skirt for the pure and simple outcome of depositing spawning seed, just to engage in bragging rights.
We do not all spend our days in that pursuit, living that grand chase, the continual pursuance of chasing women for sex via that game is not an honourable pastime in my opinion, but purely narcissistic, and those that undertake that have their own reasons ofcourse, which is fine with me. but it is not one that I condone or even encourage. To my way of thinking, life is more than just sex and should not be all about just one outcome but should also include something more noble such as the pursuit of dignity, honour and happiness whatever you deem that to be. So my original comment stands..
christian J.I find it incredible that any male would turn against a movement that works to ensure your normal human rights are not destroyed. That is ofcourse unless you’re a feminist adherent. A couple of which I notice here..



A quick lesson on assessing women of different height, the pros and cons..
Lesson 425.4

How come the White Bitch Won ? Not Happy..

I have often wondered why some women respond differently to situations than others. I was of the opinion that some type of generalisation was suitable and left it at that, take them as they come and leave it at that, they were always going to be a little weird so what else is new. We have all spent time with members of the opposite sex and would on the odd occasion been rather taken back by some of their differing behaviour and friendliness especially after dealing with the obnoxious hags in the feminist movement, which does not endear anyone to the opposite sex, it does indeed guarantee the opposite.
As an aside, as a heterosexual women, I greatly prefer small-boned, large-breasted women for friendship. They’re more likely to be loyal, sweet, and share my values. I try to avoid tall, large-jawed, small-breasted women. I always get the “I want to screw around, break up relationships and eat babies” vibe from them.
So I was rather taken back when reading an article that suggested that women behave differently due to their height, yep their height. Apparently, estrogen is a bone growing retardant..
 The hormone is responsible for hastening the fusion of growth plates of long bones during puberty, which is why the onset of menstruation signals a significant slow-down in growth in girls. Doses of estrogen could hurry that process along."There are some parallels with today's growth hormone technology," says Joyce Lee, a professor of pediatric endocrinology at the University of Michigan. She wrote a historical overview of estrogen treatment for tall girls in the October 2006 issue of Archives of Pediatric and Adolescent Medicine.
So we have those outstanding and obvious features to look out for. Tall, thin/lean women with square jaws are going to screw you around as well as up and down. It would appear to be the ones to avoid. It would be interesting to apply the height question whenever conversing or exchanging comments with a member of the feminastie movement as to it's height as that will determine the level of obnoxiousness..
The ovaries produce both testosterone and estrogen. Relatively small quantities of testosterone are released into your bloodstream by the ovaries and adrenal glands. In addition to being produced by the ovaries, estrogen is also produced by fat tissue in the body. These sex hormones are involved in the growth, maintenance, and repair of reproductive tissues. But that’s not all. They influence other body tissues and bone mass as well.
We also have to expose that lie that feminists have used all along pertaining to testosterone, which apparently runs through their own veins as well, well maybe more so in theirs..
Why are athletes at risk for low levels of estrogen?
Estrogen Shots Required, some running low..
Women with low body fat often do not produce sufficient amounts of sex hormones. This can be a problem for women such as athletes, models, and gymnasts. It can also be a problem for women with eating disorders. These women can experience a cessation of menstruation, known as amenorrhea. They may also develop osteoporosis -- thin bones -- and fractures as well as other conditions more common in older women after menopause.
Estrogen is the sex drug that women possess, so the lack of it would indicate a lower level of sexual activity, child birth, mental and physical health and also little tits. The obnoxious Gorny Weaver comes to mind..
Shorter women are more likely to have long-term relationships with men, and more likely to have children, according to a study of 10,000 people born in the UK in 1958.The average height for a British woman is 1.62 metres (5 feet, 4 inches). But those who were between 1.51 and 1.58 metres were most likely to be married and to have children by the age of 42. This relationship held true even after accounting for social class.
The study also found that women prefer men who are taller than average. A man of 1.83 metres (6 feet exactly) was more likely to have a partner and children than a man standing at the average height of 1.77 metres (5 feet, 10 inches).
For the rest of the explanation, let's turn to the rest of Roissy's article..
Are Short Women More Desirable Than Tall Women?
Men are attracted to a woman’s looks first and foremost, but after a while — a few weeks to a few months — a woman’s other assets become important to men, especially men seeking long term relationships. Is she sweet and affectionate? Does she like to cook him dinner? Is she nurturing and does she coo over other women’s babies? Is she an animal lover? Does she prefer to avoid getting into arguments? Does she frequently cede decisions to her man? Does she shy from logic and debate? Is she quick to tear up during sad movies?
Most men, their curmudgeonly ribbing to the contrary notwithstanding, really do love these attributes of the feminine woman. Yes, we may complain about a woman’s runaway emotions, her focus on seemingly trite household matters, or her bleeding heart worldview, but we love them for it. The alternative — dating a woman with a man-like personality, ambition and outlook, however sexy she may be — leaves us feeling like we’re dating an alien impostor, and our instinct to protect and provide for an intrinsically vulnerable lover is muted with such masculine-essenced women.
Looking back on the women in my life, I think there is something to this. The shorter women have been, with few exceptions, more feminine and sweet-natured than the taller women I have dated. (And also more full of charming neuroses.) The short girls were the ones begging me to return to bed after sex so they could get their cuddle fix, while the tall girls would jump out of bed first after getting their rocks off. Hey, if I have things to do, I don’t mind a girl occupying herself after sex, but in the big picture I greatly prefer — and I suspect most men do too — a woman who acts like a stereotypical woman in and out of the bedroom. Unfortunately, women like this are running out in the West.
So maybe estrogen explains why everyone isn’t over six feet tall. Men of all heights are drawn to the feminine allure of shorter women with higher levels of estrogen, and have families with them, rejuvenating the next generation with shorter descendants. Perhaps men also choose these shorter women for family formation subconsciously knowing that they are less of a cuckolding risk than masculinized tall women.
Not that tall women don’t have their advantages. You’ve gotta love those long legs wrapped around you, for one. And if you’re a tall man you don’t have to prop up a tall woman’s behind for easier doggy-style access. Plus, tall women make for more striking arm candy as long as they meet a minimum beauty threshold. It’s just too easy for a hot short girl, sexy though she may be, to get lost in the crowd.
Lesson Over..