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Over the last couple of weeks there has been some rather interesting variables on the Manophere that would make you wonder if the battle was over and the post traumatic, aftermath was in progress..

Enlightening issues surfaced with regularity, as you would have witnessed on this blog as well. One cannot concentrate solely on the evil that is feminism, without taking some break in order to recharge the batteries and reassess the situation and plan our new strategies. It's a lot more fun as well..

First, we have Bill at "The Spearhead" issuing a poll to determine which feminist is the least obnoxious. Be it Valenti or Marcotte. I have found it difficult to distinguish between the two, as they seem to wallow in the same level of snipe and snark apart from the fact that they may even be twins. Obviously the outcome of that poll will do nothing nothing for poor little Marcotte, as it demonstrates that a night with her would be comparable with having a root canal removed without the anesthetic. Valenti got the nod for best shaggability of the two and should be awarded some trophy to mark the special occassion. Maybe something in plastic that runs on batteries..

Marcotte
Valenti



Go ahead, tell them apart. They could even be evil twins. Some features and attitude. Does make one question the effectiveness of birth control or even the morning after pill..

The Hawaiian Libertarian broadens our knowledge about the local language with "Mo'olelo 'auana" .

Where as Fidelbogen at "The Counter Feminist" puts it on the line with

"If You Call Yourself a Feminist, You Will be Treated Like One",

The False Rape Society, the one single site who has been drawing attention to the obvious and has been proven to be very affective tool at spreading the message. It demonstrates that there is one sex who does not like the idea of the truth being promoted and would happily shut this excellent site down if they could. That has ofcourse been tried in the past with every MRM sites and blogs..

If we lived in a "rape culture," how would the Max Nicastro story be reported?

Girl's rape claim was false.

We cannot go past an excellent article about the MRM on World News Daily, that showed our young struggling movement. This does not happen anymore with the majority of MSM but the journalist that wrote the article actually contacted some of the people involved to ask questions. So, top marks to that site and to the standards they obviously maintain.

The AVfM site has ofcourse introduced a few topics of interest as they push the words on the lips of every MRA, "FTSU"..

Setting the Record Straight..

MELT: Campaign for Justice.

There are ofcourse copious other places on the web that promote, argue and discuss plenty of topics about men and the society that we live in. More links in the right side bar to have a look at, so you don't have to try and find them yourself. Broadening one's information about the MRM has to be a priority as there are so much false, fake,  malicious and nasty information out there designed to minimise our effectiveness, still our voice and negate our legitimate course of action..

Christian J.

Bernard hits the "MRA's are the enemy" scenario, reaching for the fourth estate, all four dimensions of it. Fascinating how gay men are of the opinion that they are seen as humans where feminists are concerned. I am not quite certain how many more times we have to demonstrate that feminists loathe gays, with a passion, the male type ofcourse, not the lesbobo version..

Check the RedFem Hub site for confirmation, if you can handle the sheer nastiness and vitriol, that is..

Feminists have jumped aboard the Gay Rights Movement in order to spread their own male hating message. A message that the Gay Community appears to ignore. When feminists call for the removal of all men, the Gay man is definitely not exempted, I cannot understand how they can be in denial of  that fact, that certainty..
Feminists are only concerned about destroying marriage and families and the Gay community can help there as well by demanding that marriage should be renounced as null and void. It's worked very well for feminism as most are totally convinced that they actually give a damn..


Feminists should stop stitching up gay designers


This theory has never been challenged, becoming the sole socially acceptable line in homophobic thought. But it is not acceptable. It is simply bile hawked up from the darkest cavity of feminism's lungs. Why then is the argument such pernicious nonsense?
Feminism and feminists only support lesbianism as most of the radical feminists are lesbians and they possess sufficient toxicity and male hate in order to spread their anti male loathing. They attached themselves to any movement they think they will have some advantage or benefit to spreading their elitist, sexist message..

So we have delusional male imitators like Rudolfo, another twisted, delusional member of the gay community who requires some cold hard facts just like we have had to show other feminist manginas..

Ignore these warning at your own peril. Feminists will dump you faster than typhoid when they have achieved their own outcomes. It's that simple..



The Great Global Warming scam has surely and finally been uncovered for what it really was. A pot of gold at the end of the ever decreasing rainbow, instigated by the same lunatics who generated it from it's beginning. Even the epicentre of this farce, the IPCC, has backtracked and commenced their denial procedures and headed for the hills as they try and cover their butts. Gillard (feminist, female and fraud) has just positioned Aus. into this giant con with the introduction of a useless carbon tax via ignorance and stupidity. Another great example of what the world will be like when it's run by women. If anyone ever suggests that it will be a better world they need to do some history, maybe even visit some prisons and ask the latest genocide specialist why SHE (rape them before you murder them) enjoyed the annihilation of nearly a million people and how much of a kick she got from that..

Men are not excluded from this action(even though death and crime rate has dropped considerably)  but as sure as hell, women are no better at it either and the implication that women are saints and free of all guilt is something that needs to be put to rest as way too many feminist clones appear to be of this opinion. They need to grow up and smell that truth..

Meanwhile there appears to be some correlation between feminism and the great global warming scams that require some studies as well. The BBC in Great Britain has to be one of the most feminist controlled media outlets in the world, just ahead of the New York Times when it comes to male bashing and promoting anything derogatory about our sex. The NYT does employ that male hating cretin and ageing miscreant by the name of Maureen "don't need no man" Dowd. Dowd is a great example on how a female can not only display total hypocrisy by bashing all things male but then complain about not getting any attention or offers of partnership from our sex. The menopausal drone  is just another feminised minion and one of it's staunch enablers. Read just one of it's articles and you will automatically suffer grey cell damage as her dysfunctional ranting will immediately demonstrate it's cognitive dissonance..

The fact that the AGW crowd and the feminist movement reared it's nefarious head at roughly the same time does demonstrate that it's mentality stems from that same "flower power" mentality that claimed  "Woodstock" was more than just some sex orgy and drug users paradise. That same mentality kicked off that same mentality that both those extremes have generated world wide and it's commencement and promotion can well be nailed to those same people..

The AGW lie has been exposed and it's leaders and promoters are all heading for cover as the truth is revealed. The "sceptics" have soundly exposed those liars and exaggerators for what they really are, in it for the money. There is a lesson to be learnt from all of this and that lesson is that when we have truth is on our side, our cause is just and we will win. The opposing side of the AGW crowd has demonstrated that a concerted effort will bare fruit and that same methodology can be applied to the MM (Mens Movement) and to MRAs as well. Our concerted efforts will claim it's reward by exposing those liars and hold them accountable. It is for this reason that every one associated with the MM can hold their head high and claim effectiveness as we witness the gradual but increasing affect we are having on that monstrous hate movement, where it's leaders are starting to head for cover as well. The one clear fact is that feminism as a movement is not supported by the general public or society in general. They are a minute movement still screaming for recognition and justification but we are here to ensure they get precisely what they deserve..

To all in the MM, a hearty, well deserved pat on the back is justified and the work undertaken by all involved can be and should be congratulated on their efforts. It's a job well done, as our movement grows daily, we can witness it's affect and it's all positive but as we hear constantly from the opposition, we have a long way to go..

Back to GGWS..

The BBC's hidden 'warmist' agenda is rapidly unravelling 
Since 2006, the BBC has relentlessly promoted the global warming orthodoxy as a pressure group in its own right.The story of the BBC’s bias on global warming gets ever murkier. Last week there was quite a stir over a new report for the BBC Trust which criticised several programmes for having been improperly funded or sponsored by outside bodies. One, for instance, lauded the work of Envirotrade, a Mauritius-based firm cashing in on the global warming scare by selling “carbon offsets”, which it turned out had given the BBC money to make the programme.
Just as this scandal broke, I was also completing a report, to be published next month by the Global Warming Policy Foundation, on the BBC’s coverage of climate change. It ranges from the puffing of scare stories dreamed up by “climate activists”, to BBC reporting on wind farms, often no more than shameless propaganda for the wind industry. Part of the story told in my report is the unhealthily close relationship that developed between the BBC and organisations professionally involved in the “warmist” cause.
Some years back, the BBC adopted a new editorial policy –that the scientific and political “consensus” on climate change was now so overwhelming that it should be actively promoted, while climate sceptics, or “deniers” as the BBC calls them, should be kept off the airwaves.
A key moment in developing the new party line was a “high-level seminar” in 2006, attended by a bevy of top BBC executives. It was organised by Roger Harrabin, one of its senior environmental correspondents, and Dr Joe Smith, a geographer and climate activist from the Open University. They had set up the Cambridge Media and Environment Programme to promote the consensus line on global warming, funded by, among others, the Department for the Environment (then in charge of government policy on climate change) and WWF, one of the leading warmist pressure groups.

More on those shameless crooks..

This article from The Private Man site sums up a particular scary situation that women are facing nicely, if not now, definitely in the future..
For those of you who have chased the odd skirt or two in his lifetime, would be well aware of the fact that women just assume they are the prize, they have been trained via DNA or something else and do believe that the final decision to partner anyone is their decision and their's alone. They assume also that they need not bring anything else to that two step which is why they continually moan and bitch about guys picking up the bill as it makes them feel in control. It's proof that they are worth it just like them mags. always told em!  Most get snooty when requested to part cash for her part of the feast..

The last question that a woman wants to ever hear is "what do you bring to the table", that puts the onus back onto them to justify their actions and face some accountability which in "women speak" means, ignore him and find another sucker. If they could, you would be on all fours begging for attention but they have squandered their check off list with unreasonable demands and it's payback time...

Why Feminists Hate Us
November 18, 2011

Feminists loathe anyone who participates positively in the Manosphere – PUA, MRA, MGTOW. I used to attribute that feminist loathing to simple man-hating. That was too basic, too binary for me and didn’t seem wholly accurate. I finally figured something out with the help of a blogger, “girlwriteswhat” and video a found over at Dalrock’s blog. She has an interesting blog and at least one excellent (if long) video.
While some radical feminists might be up for some righteous hate upon men, the average, card-carrying feminist simply can’t loathe all men. That’s because they need men, they just can’t admit it. As girlwriteswhat states clearly in her video and in some of her excellent posts, men are still expected to sacrifice their very lives on the alter of womanhood. Men have the social obligation to put the needs of women before the needs of themselves. This is the ultimate privilege that women possess.
Us Manosphere guys, the Red Pill men, the guys who figured it out, we know better. We don’t put a woman’s needs before our own. Run into a burning building to save an unknown woman? We’d think twice. It’s that hesitation which galls feminists so much.
A PUA sees an attractive woman? He doesn’t think twice about her relationship status, his needs come first. That galls feminists, too. A man eschews a committed relationship with a woman to live on his own terms? How dare he put his own needs first? He must be a man-child.
When I read Amanda Marcotte (no link from me) rail against MRAs, I know that it’s simply an expression of her incredible fear that she won’t be rescued first from the burning building. Yet she and her ilk continually denigrate the aggressive nature of masculinity – they use the rape culture proxy – that provided the vital attitudes of ambition, achievement, competitiveness, and assertiveness that built our civilization. Note the hellish hypocrisy of women bashing masculinity yet still expecting men to suborn their needs to those of women.
Even women who don’t identify themselves as feminists feel extremely awkward when confronted by a typical Red Pill question: “What do you bring to the table in terms of dating and a relationship?” The sense of awkwardness is a manifestation of fear that perhaps the man asking the question has learned too much about female privilege and male sacrifice.
Feminists tore up their side of the social gender contract and are desperate to keep men upholding their unbroken side of that contract. But the Manosphere keeps shining a bright spotlight on how that contract is so badly broken and that men should simply no longer sacrifice themselves for the needs of women.

A follow up on my previous post on this situation where Bieber faces three issues that the MM and MRA's have been exposing for some time..

1. Any woman can make a false claim and the media will automatically expose the individual involved without having been proven guilty or culpable. The woman's word is held to be sacrosanct even with the ever increasing and overwhelming evidence that most paternity claims exposed in the media today are false.

2. Any male has to prove he has been wrongly accused instead of it being the other way around..

3. The false accuser will walk away from this incidence with no accountability, she will also benefit  in most cases, assisted by the MSM and paid for the story..

This entire episode is ofcourse a miscarriage of so-called justice. The entire incidence is just another example on how women again demonstrate what a joke this whole system has become and how tiresome it is as well. It is now at the stage that whenever anyone even reports a false paternity claim or even a rape, the automatic response is "what is she lying about this time"..



Justin Bieber paternity lawsuit dropped

Updated: 22:47, Wednesday November 16, 2011

Justin Bieber paternity lawsuit dropped

The woman who accused Justin Bieber of fathering her four-month-old son has dropped her paternity lawsuit.
Mariah Yeater, 20, had alleged she became pregnant with the 'Baby' singer's child following a 30-second romp after one of his concerts in Los Angeles in October 2010 and although Justin - who vehemently denied the claims - had agreed to a paternity test, the suit was quietly withdrawn late last week, according to TMZ.com.
Mariah's lawyers Lance Rogers and Matt Pare have also stopped representing her after Justin's attorney Howard Weitzman warned Mariah they were planning to sue her and her legal representatives for making false claims.
Justin - who is dating Selena Gomez - previously revealed he was happy to take a DNA test to prove his innocence but insisted he would not 'waste' his time meeting his accuser face-to-face because her fabricated claims were vindictive.
The 17-year-old pop star said: 'All this stuff is dealt with by my legal team. But if they want me to (take a paternity test) then I will.'
When asked what he would say to Mariah if he could meet her, he said: 'Nothing, I wouldn't waste my time. I guess (she's done this) for attention, but it's not something I am interested in. These people are not worth my thought or time.'

Admittedly, the PUA and MRA discussion was one we had to have. Whether we agree or disagree with the outcome, maybe even agree to disagree, it did serve the purpose of pointing out differing opinions and attitudes that both sides of the discussion needed to explore..
Part of the problem I have with the PUA's activities was primarily that those guys were servicing women on regular occassions for one simple reason, at the same time MRA's were warning all men about the possibility of being screwed (the other) with false accusations under the current laws in place which will and can destroy one's life in an instant with very little or no repercussion on the accuser, even being charged or held accountable. The whole issue was so skewed that it would be better not to go near any female rather than face a possible prison term for something you may be entirely innocent of .

The outcome to my way of thinking should have been a reduction of male to female relationships/nights out/even had a ban night with the intent of ensuring that those misandric laws were named and promoted as being the main reason it was happening. A bit like the marriage strike which some deny and some agree is happening, but it has yet to surface that men are soundly rejecting marriage because of the anti-male laws in place, which the MSM does not bother to include in their interpretation or opinion pieces..
Misinformation still remains if it protects the privileged princesses. If it does not, only then will it get exposed. The hypocrisy is real..

Tdom has this rather interesting article on the PUA methodology and exposes the psuedo-science mentality it incorporates without justification..

Game Over

Welcome to the Debating Game

Written by TDOM

Over at AVfM, Paul Elam is hosting a debate on game and the MRM between himself and someone named Frost. Paul is critical of the use of game and game theory while Frost is defending it as a sort of science of how to get laid (he called it a “study”).
Paul’s position is that game has no bearing on the men’s movement. While some gamers are sympathetic to men’s rights and other issues or may be opposed to feminism, game itself is meaningless and those who extol its virtues are mostly in it for the money (selling books, DVDs, etc.). It is all about getting laid and nothing more. According to Paul, game is all about throwing one’s values and self-respect out the window in order to pass a shit test. Frost claims it is a legitimate endeavor and defines it as: “Game is the study of how women respond to men’s behaviour (sic)” and claims it will increase a man’s chances for success with women.
I’m not entirely certain as to why it is important to debate this issue. Game may very well be a waste of time, money, and energy. Its proponents may be con artists. Its practitioners may be superficial scumbags with little respect for women. So what? There are plenty of snake oil salesmen(women) out there and as David Hannum once said, “There’s a sucker born every minute.”[1]
One the other hand, maybe it works. Again, so what? Lots of people use lots of techniques to get what they want. Car salesmen are taught a variety of manipulative techniques to sell cars to people who may not really want one or need one. Does that make them bad people? No, it makes them salesmen. So if a man wraps himself up in a thinly veiled technique to manipulate a woman into having sex, does that make him any worse than the woman who dons wig or colors her hair and applies expensive cosmetics to attract a man? I suppose that may depend on who is asked, but both are presenting themselves as something they aren’t in order to get something they want.
While Paul has only hinted at it, the best I can figure is that he is attempting to save gamers from themselves. He hasn’t succinctly stated it, but I can see the following problems with game. Once women realize they’ve been gamed, they may feel used and cheated. That opens the door for false allegations that could devastate their lives. Further, gamers appear to suffer from a lack of self-confidence, especially with women. This lack of confidence leaves them open to being exploited by unscrupulous con artists willing to take their money for the promise of increased access to sex. Thirdly, PUAs and gamers are typically viewed as sexual predators. They aren’t necessarily rapists or even doing anything wrong, but the practice of an art of luring women into bed may be seen by others as sleazy behavior.
Basically, its bad PR for men in general and in that respect it may be contraindicated as part of the MRM. Finally, it only confirms the feminist viewpoint that men are only after one thing. PUAs, they would say, demean and degrade women by treating them as sex objects whose sole purpose is to satisfy their desires.
From the gamer perspective, I suppose that Frost and others would believe that whatever they are paying for the services of their teachers, it is money well spent if it improves success rates. If they get laid often enough, it will increase their self-esteem and therefore game might be considered a form of therapy. The women they find are typically in singles bars, making themselves available. They want it, so what’s the problem. That PUAs might be seen as sleazy misogynists never enters their mind. These women want to get laid as badly as the PUAs do. No misogyny involved. In many respects, they have a point.
The flaw isn’t that the techniques may appear bizarre, but that they aren’t backed up by any sort of valid evidence. 
There are lots of reasons women go to bars and consume alcohol, but meeting men is probably at the top of the list. Just as advocates of game can make considerable amounts of money selling game to vulnerable men, there are tons of writers and publications dedicated to taking money from vulnerable women by purporting to teach them how to trap a man. Where better to practice either art than a place where single men go to find single women, especially one that provides legal drugs that decrease inhibitions and provide a false sense of confidence. As such, there’s no real reason for a PUA to feel a sense of shame or guilt any more than there is for a woman to feel the same about her use of deception to trap a man. The reality is that both are there for the same thing.But before we can decide which view is correct, we must define game. What is it? Frost stated that “Game is the study of how women respond to men’s behaviour (sic).” But this same statement could be used to define feminism; which is the ideology that describes women’s response to male oppression (or so they claim). Are they the same thing? Not hardly. So Frost’s definition is insufficient. However, he makes another statement a bit later that may enhance the definition, “The bottom line is that Game is a tool men can use to increase their success with women. No more, no less.” In other words, game could be defined as the study of how women respond to men’s behavior, and how men can use that knowledge to gain access to sex with women. I use the word sex instead of success because he also states “If a man chooses to eschew sex for life, I admit he will have no use for Game.” Thus, Frost equates success with sex and sex is far more specific.
Frost takes exception to the belief that:
[game] must include shiny clothes, effeminate mannerisms, hoop-jumping, and whatever other behaviours (sic) that they would like to associate with we ‘Gamers’.
I don’t blame him. While these things are hyped by some gamers, there is more to game than that. To think otherwise is to believe in a caricature. What constitutes real game is found in the next statement:
We’re just a community of men, sharing what we know about women and relationships.
which is a very telling statement.
Frost stated that game is a “study.” This implies some sort of methodological approach. But what kind of methodology? A bunch of men sharing what they know is definitely not science. It is personal experience; anecdotal evidence. Any scientist will tell you that anecdotal evidence is simply not evidence. It might have some value in helping to formulate a hypothesis, but it is insufficient to test that hypothesis.
For example, if I were to go out and buy a new pair of shoes prior to jumping off a ledge, I might conclude that I survived because the shoes absorbed the impact and that they were the reason I lived. I might then go out and tell everyone I know about my experience and that wearing these shoes will increase their chances of survival if they intend to jump off a ledge. But I might not have considered that the ledge I jumped from was three feet off the ground and not from a five story building.
Likewise, a gamer may tell all his buddies about how he negged some chick at the local bar who later went home with him. But he may neglect to consider that she had a thing for tall, skinny guys with blond hair and blue eyes and that he just happened to fit that description while all the other guys in the bar that she rejected did not. It may have been the blond hair and blue eyes that attracted the woman, not the neg, just as it was likely the height of the ledge that allowed me to survive, not the new shoes. A more scientific approach might be more beneficial in determining what works and what doesn’t.
Frost stated that one objection to game may be that the “specific teachings are flawed.” Frost may have been correct, but he was correct for the wrong reasons. The flaw isn’t that the techniques may appear bizarre, but that they aren’t backed up by any sort of valid evidence. An objection to a comment I made on the debate was that “What works for someone won’t work for you…” game must be custom-fit to the person using it. While this may be sound advice, what does it say about game? Game is supposed to increase success with women, but if the techniques are prone to failure, does it actually increase success?

Rest of the article here..

The PUA Industry: Failure to Warn Members.. 

I have in the past stated that the PUA theories and practices do have something to offer any potential suitor/player in the pursuit of women. The psychology and methodology would be basically unarguable, as they have studied their targets comprehensively and thereby are able to assume that their method and techniques work. However, nothing is made of the fact that women themselves would be aware of the player's game and may in actual fact just be playing along as it has already been a studied fact that women will within the first ten seconds or so, make up their minds whether or not she will give you access to that golden "sphincter". So in reality, you can only destroy that pre-made decision by human error or misbehaviour. So the PUA psychology would assist there to ensure that did not happen..

But in return for memorising the standard PUA methodology and practises one would and does act outside of his norm. He has to develop a routine and behaviour that is not only camouflage but is in reality just a fake effigy of himself.
It goes without saying that the PUA industry in purely a sales pitch designed to hook the unsuspecting male into believing that if he relieves himself of whatever fees, materials and DVD's recommended,  they will turn a nerd into a "PLAYER" of such magnitude that he will not only be irresistible to the opposite sex but will be capable of dissolving those knickers just by being in it's proximity..

The main argument MRA's have and this is my opinion, is that the endless PUA messages and advice fails to come with a "warning" sign, and that warning sign should at least carry the some type of disclaimer that associating with any female in this day and age can and will get you thrown in jail, can destroy your life, can bankrupt you without you so much as given any opportunity of resisting as that would just be futile. The GURUS from that industry fail in that sense and admittedly, some of the commenters on sites that covers the PUA world do make that effort which is heartening to see. So not all are negligent of what should at least be their standard duty to their paying members..

One would imagine that being PUA would indeed help one to circumvent any possible relationship horrors as they claim to be in control and know how to manipulate women under any circumstance. This is however not the case at all, far from it..
Alec Novy.
           95% of PUAs are still at the same level of pussy-getting of the day they joined. PUA conferences have the highest level of virgins of any conference on planet earth.At least 20%* of the top game-gurus have been proven to be frauds with no personal results.-> One of them was shown to have only had 2 girls in his entire life, yet he is a guru.
-> Another admitted only having 2 relationships in his life, ever (and no, he wasn’t hooking up in the meantime)
-> Another became a PUA teacher 2 weeks after losing his virginity
-> Another has approach anxiety at 30 years old and spends 2000$ a night on bottle service to get approached by women
-> Another had been a “guru” since 20 years old. He had been teaching and inventing new pua theories even before he had any results (he invented the amog shit). HE GOT HIS SECOND GIRLFRIEND EVER PREGNANT – with her screwing him over with a “slipped condom” or whatever. So get this, one of the top 3 gurus who is in charge of the top theories in game got gamed by a poor mexican immigrant who trapped him into fatherhood. All of this happened when he was the top-paid PUA guru on the planet.
So it appears that the PUA gaming methodology does not protect you from anything except maybe thinning out your bank account. As with all other teachings, there are always the zealots who refuse to accept the bleeding obvious and will argue against anything they deem to be detrimental to the game. Such religious zeal can be found in the feminist hegemony. Refusing to basically view the MRA argument as being legitimate and reasonable instead they prefer taking the offensive by labelling MRA as opposition.  The PUA adherents take that same attitude suggesting that we repress their "craft" which is ofcourse ridiculous and beyond comprehension. They also suggest that we have no interest or association with women which is ofcourse just a strawman, not worth the time to comment on.

MRA's have no issues with women per se, only the illegal and incomprehensible anti-male laws put into place to protect a sex who is quite capable of protecting itself. I have issues with the downright obsessive and obnoxious behaviour that feminist have injected into the female psyche and women now have taken it all for granted and not even bothering to comprehend the damage they have caused society by their endless and increasing demands. I have issues with the endless privileges women receive at the detriment of all men and boys with out so much as recognition that it's happening, living in denial..

So the debate will continue and hopefully at the end of it all, we will have some common ground to work with and they will hopefully introduce some honesty and dignity into their industry by at least taking the honourable action of forewarning their members what may lay ahead if they pursue their recommended procedures and apply them to the opposite sex. Do you think that will ever happen ?

Link to PUA Fraud..

I have just spent some time going over comments and an article about MRA's and the MM (Mens Movement) on In mala fida (meaning Undertaken in bad faith [latin]). The topic of this article is "Men’s Rights Activists Are Spineless Pussies".
An interesting article as you can imagine and I spent most of my time laughing at the inaneness of it all.  I could only really imagine an individual, one carrying his own little pine box to hoist himself on seeking oratory expulsion, wearing earplugs just incase someone stated anything that he could not argue against without being offensive or there may have been someone else's POV, be too confronting and he would have to pull up his little theatre box and go home..

The article does explain quite a few issues that I and many MRA's have spoken about in the past. Mainly, why it was so difficult to promote a movement that is solely concerned with giving all men and boys an equal ride with the law or reducing the negative and general societal attitude against all men which is building to a crescendo and that we should at least join together and put up some resistance before it was too late, before those laws were set in stone and more men and boys suffered or died (suicides) because of it's existence..

This attitude appears to be somewhat too difficult to comprehend as the most resistance to this movement is our own sex and it is startling to witness. Previously I posted an article from the Roissy site which took a swing at this movement as well and I did on that occasion decide that people were entitled to their own opinions as I cannot change anyone's thinking pattern, biases or preferences as that had to be self induced, that being the case I noted that whatever PUA's did was really up to them. Agree to disagree was the motto..

That all changed ofcourse by that recalcitrants article containing nothing more then abusive, hysterical rants that would have suited an eighteen year old feminist major, freshly out of gender studies and I use that example as I did come across a couple of comments from a few of those male hating feminists who stated they were looking forward to meeting these PUA's as they "knew" how to treat women on "how they should be treated" and that set off the alarm bells. Whenever feminists agree with anything men do then there is definitely a something askew.  PUA's can wrap their pussy begging attitude up into any parcel they want and rename it anyway they like but the end result will always be the same.

Here is some of that snarky smut and contemptible ranting, conspiracy theory anyone ?

The typical MRA is contemptible. Not only is he a slave, he works diligently to build his own torture chamber – which will house not only him, but also his fellow slaves and their slave children.

That’s right. In the name of parental love, you MRA’s perpetuate a system that grinds up America’s youth. Your sons become bastards and your daughters take to the pole.
I propose a new loyalty requirement: the true MRA must pay nothing – not one cent – of unmerited and extortionate alimony and child support. If he does, he is a traitor to men’s rights. He is no better than the Jews who helped Nazis kill Jews.
More of his delusional tripe here..Some of the comments are a good source of entertainment..

However, not everyone falls for the women-begging lifestyle as it does leave a lot to be desired. I have yet to meet one single man who spends his time chasing pussy, to ever be enjoying himself afterwards as the ongoing messaging, the emails and phone calls and endless abuse (when it goes wrong) is unrelenting, It costs him money just avoiding them..
 Everything has a downside and I have not heard a single word of praise pass his lips over the last five years which indicates that it's worth it, that thinking with his little head has caused him nothing but major issues. He knows better than to raise that crap with me..

A site worthy of attention on the opposing view on PUA thinking, actions and psychology also a great read. LIFESTYLE JOURNEY FOR MEN.


Paying For Sex Is More Alpha Than Using PUA Methods


• Paying money instead of using game means you don't have to change who you are. If you want to get laid, you just pay money, and your personality stays basically intact. So given a choice between the two, a truly alpha guy is more likely to just pay for sex than change parts of his personality in order to get women to have sex with him. Now some guys will say that going to prostitutes sucks because the woman doesn't actually like them, and is just doing it for money. To me, as long as I just want sex, it wouldn't matter to me anymore than if my mechanic likes me as a person. As long as he can properly service my car, that's all I really want. I'm not paying him to like me. I'm paying him to service my car, the same way I would pay a woman to satisfy me sexually. However, I would want her to respect me. That is important, the same way it's important that my mechanic respects my wishes with respect to my car.

This would be a prime opportunity for any Father facing the endless possibility of receiving a reaming in the family court by his vengeful and avenging ex. Fathers fail to comprehend that when he is served with the divorce papers his ex. has already sought the best legal advice available, mostly free to women only, and she has already spent the previous year, scheming and planning her move.

Men are fooled into thinking and believing that the woman who is demanding the action is still that same little sweetheart he met years earlier and tied the knot with..That concept has to be thrown out the door, broken into little pieces, piled on high and torched as that woman will now make sure that she will rape you mentally, monetarily and physically and spit you out when she is finished, she will take everything you have without so much as a backward glance or a moments hesitation..
If your believe otherwise, you are in for a major education as you will be dragged through the wringers in a court system that is specifically designed to favour women and women only..Word to the wise, go armed with the knowledge required to win, these courses are designed to do exactly that..


Self-represented litigant family law training courses


self-represented-litigant, family law, divorce, child custody, child supportThe Men’s Rights Agency periodically runs a course of weekly family law seminars, over 2 to 3 weeks, designed specifically to assist men who wish to represent themselves in Family Court, the Federal Magistrates Court or State Magistrates Court, on matters ranging from divorce tochild custody issues..
Everyone needs to understand the current family law legislation. Other topics covered include domestic violence, child support and defacto property law.
The seminars are conducted by specialist MRA lawyers in Brisbane, the Bethania Community Centre or at Southport.
Previous seminars have proven successful as evidenced by the number of fathers who have successfully represented themselves in court and in their negotiations with the other party after attending our courses.

I typed in that acronym into Google just a few minutes ago and noticed not one single mention of Mens Rights Activism on the first page where it should be in my opinion. As activism and activities grows and that acronym spreads across the web, we should at least ensure that acronym is recognised for it's original meaning and intent..

For an MRA like myself to state what it is we do or what we stand for is fairly obvious but after reading comments from the latest Bigot inclusion on register-her.com site, she stated in one of her comments that she did not know what an MRA was, this comment should be taken seriously as this knowledge would indeed stop any future misunderstanding and would definitely put all those male hating feminists and their enablers on further notice. So in reality, how do we go about expounding and expanding the MRA name and mission..

This entry will ofcourse be a start as the Net is now the number source of information as people move away from the MSM as they witness their efforts are either political or promoting their own agenda. Sites such as this and many, many others that we rely on for information has been our mainstay for years as we have learnt to trust that information and tested in it against others to ensure that information is correct or at least appeals to our own sense of reality, morality and common sense..

So what does an MRA stand for ?

This next article should go along way in explaining what ails our society and also what a massive effort we will have to generate to overcome the standard misandry that these female artists introduce at the expense of all men. If you are pissed off after reading this article, then it would be safe to say that you are an MRA right now or will be one in the near future..

Let's see..


Article here. Excerpt:
'So go the lyrics to Kelly Clarkson recent Top 20 hit, “Mr. Know It All,” the lead single from her fifth studio album, “Stronger,” which dropped on Oct. 21. Another song on the album, “Einstein,” has a chorus that goes “I may not be Einstein/But I know dumb plus dumb equals you.”
Depending on your point of view — and perhaps your gender — these songs are either female empowerment anthems or male-bashing songs. Whatever the case, this mini-genre has become fashionable among female artists, with songs like Pink’s “U and Ur Hand,” Orianthi’s “According to You” and Britney Spears’ “Womanizer” all becoming big hits in the past few years. Vibe Magazine’s female arm, Vibe Vixen, even put together a list of “The 45 Greatest Male-Bashing Anthems” — and that list didn't even include any country songs (like Carrie Underwood’s “Before He Cheats”).
...
But according to Glenn Sacks, a men’s issues expert, the lyrics of songs by Clarkson and others are indicative of anti-male stereotypes found today in sitcoms, movies, and commercials, where men are seen as inept and foolish.
“I think it speaks to something larger in the culture,” Sacks said. “Where the man’s always wrong the woman’s behavior is never examined. I always found ‘Womanizer’ to be ironic because Britney had been married and divorced multiple times and is nobody to be pointing fingers about womanizing or being promiscuous or whatever.”'

Link to Mensractivism.org site.. 

While you are on the web, wait a few hours for the search engines to pick up this post and punch in MRA and see what comes up. Search engines are primarily designed to show your preferences on the first page, so it s difficult for me to get a proper perspective as I have used other computers logged in by other users which gives a different search outcome. Let me know if it comes up on your request in the comments section. Thanks..

I have in the past posted the odd comments regarding PUA's (pick up artists) when some disparaging remarks about MRA's and the Men's Rights Movement were made while at the same time as they tried to paint it as some irrelevant and futile activity while at the same time glorifying their own pussy begging activity as being beyond question. Their efforts were ofcourse noble and just while every one else were just, well, wasting their time..

Apart from myself being somewhat taken aback by those snarky comments, it did raise some interesting points regarding their activities. One would wonder what level of ignorance one has to cross with the current laws in place could, can, will and does throw men in jail for even frowning at a member of the opposite sex, which could be interpreted as having either abusive or sexual implications on her word alone without evidence, verification or witnesses. One would also wonder why inserting a penis into a vagina is so important that hours, days, weeks and months should be invested in "learning" the appropriate methodology to trick or con some female in between the sheets just so you can inseminate her with your DNA in the hope that nothing breaks and ensuring that the used condom does not mysteriously disappear as too many examples of that being precisely that type of action has already been penned. Women have impregnated themselves in order to sue for child support and "alimoney" which is some states is for life..

One would have thought that living a lie, feigning friendship and coital friction should be left to the original experts who have honed their skills over centuries and it's not the PUAs. To my way of thinking and in todays "sexual" climate where sex is served up on a pretty platter on demand, pua's would be better off just posing the question directly like "wanna shag" and if the answer is either a neg or not you would at least not wasted all that time in preparation and training to achieve the same rejection rate. Although I must admit that the odd examples I have seen do work like smooth clockwork as even time limits were set and beaten. On one occasion, a time limit fo sixty seconds was set to achieve some face suction from an unsuspecting female and that worked a treat. Whether it was real or rehearsed, one just does not know... Each to their own I guess..

Apart from the topic being raised in the past, we have that same discussion rearing it's head again in  two different articles on the AVfM site this week which I will link further down but before I do

Fidelbogen“What’s the difference between a PUA and an MRA?An MRA is a political thinker.
A PUA tends to be apolitical, “naturalistic” in his ethics, oriented toward the social microcosm, and more concerned with personal power and status within said microcosm.
MRAs have no “stated goals”. They are for the most part theorists and agitators. Their modus operandi is to slowly crank up the heat and pressure on feminism by means of their writings, and by indirect channels of influence. They are also highly effective in raising the level of social consciousness and bringing new recruits on board.
The unstated goal of the MRA sector is to inflict “death by a thousand cuts” upon feminism.
MRAs and PUAs, ideally, ought to exist in a happy and mutually beneficial state of symbiosis, with each attending to its duties in its own sphere. Unfortunately, one of those sectors is shitting the bed in a pretty serious way — and I shall tactfully refrain from saying which side I mean. ;)
Link to my previous post..

Roissy and the Manifesto: Wrong About MRA & MRM..


Links to AVfM on two articles, both wondering the same thing I had...

Game – zeta style: Part 1, what and why
Chateau Bullshit

To be fair to Chateau/Roissy, I did in time past post a few articles from that site as I found their comprehension of and their learned knowledge on female behaviour was fascinating as well as being spot on. One needs to know how the opposition ticks..

MLK spoke to a society who had so far had refused to accept people for who and what they are. The Men's Rights Movement speaks for ALL men and boys regardless of colour, race, religion or sexual preferrences. Fight for those who have been vilified and degraded to the same degree that MLK sought to end.

One Does Have a Moral Responsibility to disobey "Unjust Laws" and those laws will not change while society and political parties continually pay homage to those instituted, unjust, biased laws that targets men and boys as criminals plus maintains the misandry and anti-male sexism at the same time. A practise they so proudly claim as equality. Keep voting them into office and you are silenty agreeing to misandry and anti-male bias, keep quite and nothing will change. The status quo is to ignore men's and boy's issues and sweep them under the carpet. That one single attitude or behaviour has been used to curb and limit outcomes just as the chilverous mentality allowes people in charge to just ignore the demands of the MRM to be treated equally..

It will be the situation where the turned phrase of "You are either for us or against us, but get out of the way" has to be the battle cry that will eventually witness a changing tide of well meaning and confused individuals to take the claims and aims of the MRM seriously..

We are here to stay and we will never give up until our aims and goals are met. Jump aboard or get left behind..

This was originally intended to be a weekly/bi-weekly, monthly, now and again when I felt like it, round up of sites in the MRM. Not all mind you, as that would fill more than a few pages. Just a few..

We have had some interesting issues surface of late, most of it being the standard hysterics from femmie comments and the occasional matching hysterics from what are supposed to be grown up female journalists and researchers, but it would appear that they are still having problems achieving that aim, even in their 50's..

MGTOW blog has an entry on that tired and useless "wimmin are hotter at 30" fallacy from India for goodness sake (one billion people not enough), which feminists ofcourse need to promote and shove down everyone's throat. The princesses have decided that thirty was breedin time. The incubator has an automatic natural time limiting clock attached and at thirty, they are already 3 years past the premium use by date. But they persist and even now they fail to get embarrassed telling such an obvious lie. Next thing you know it will be fifty year olds being the new thirties, now whose gonna believe that..

The MGTOW forum threw their support behind the Dad who was accused of being a pedophile for having the audacity to take a foto of his own daughter under the assumption that his camera may have been a weapon of more destruction than the PC cretins who now work in shopping centres, thought possible..

The Hawaiian Libertarian has a good listing on how not only society is being screwed but men in the process as well.  Those ultra left wing weirdoes such as those "rentacrowd"bozos at the Wall Street sit in, not only stank up the environment but had their Seinfeld moment or would that be "much ado about nothing". Those clueless layabouts were protesting about something to protest about just basically caused humiliation did nothing to help our image or anything else. Their behaviour and responses were unmemorable and the smell, well..

The Elusive Wapiti points out that obnoxious load of roadkill and Uberfrau Rosanne Barr successfully completed it's hypocritical cycle by criticising those rich bastards and banks while she sits on a personal fortune over 100 Million dollars. Wow, that level of hypocrisy has to be learnt as that level of stupid,  one is not born with. Then again it would scare children and should carry a warning sign..

So an interesting week or so where Jamie Lee Curtis shunned the evils of feminism and Curry demonstrated hers. A Voice for Men offered up a veritable smorgasbord of interesting topics as usual and the most interesting as far as I am concerned was the addition of Bigot Marcotte on the www.register-her.com site, recognising it for being the exact obnoxious man hater it is. Her efforts alone should set that hegemony back a few pegs. Finally ofcourse there was that excellent article on the World Net Daily's about the MRM, memorable because a journalist actually contacted the people of the ground floor instead of those useless feminised male imitators who claim they represent our movement. That was a really big occasion and just the start of something even bigger yet to come..

Join the winning side..

A final inclusion ofcourse will be the Hottie in double-vision....

Does my left ventricle look fat in this one or that one..T.Reid.

I have on countless occasion quoted and linked to Angry Harry's site. Mainly due to the fact that Angry and I commenced about the same time on the road of educating the general population about that lying hegemony. Angry has credentials as a Psychologist and could even be named as the instigator of the Modern MRM on the web as we know it today. So, got nothing to do and looking for something of interest where you can actually make some difference. The Men's Movement is waiting for you to start, join in and spread the word, be an MRA if you like, make new friends and you will never be on your own again. We have endless networks and with online access via Skype and other methods, speak to anyone you like for advice or help to get started..


codger
Old Codgers Unite

So there you are. Somewhere around 57 years old.
Maybe a few years older. Maybe a few years younger.
Every morning you wake up too early and go to the lavatory because you are desperate for a pee.
You stand there, hanging over the toilet bowl; waiting and waiting. But nothing happens.
You start whistling an old tune to keep yourself awake.
Eventually, a trickle or two splashes somewhere beneath you, and you feel total relief.
So what felt like three pints of tea turns out to be no more than enough liquid to moisten a postage stamp.
You might as well have stayed in bed.
But you can't go back to sleep now, so you go to the bathroom to brush your teeth.
You look in the mirror in genuine astonishment.
"Who the hell is that?" you keep asking yourself.
"That isn't me. That really isn't me."
You cannot believe that the old codger who is staring back at you is you.
What on earth happened to you?
Where have you gone?
You look more closely to check it out.
You seem to have more hair erupting out of your ears and your nostrils than is growing upon your head.
Even your shrinking chest bears six wispy white hairs that are two feet long - and still growing.
You should really cut them down to size, but you want to see how long they will end up being - in the interest of science, of course.
The skin on your body is puckered and loosening.
You look like a bloodhound who has just received some very bad news.
The last time you had decent sex was somewhere back in the 20th Century.
With whom, you cannot remember.
But it sure as hell wasn't that Jezebel that you once called your wife.
Sex with her was OK till the marriage certificate was signed. But, thereafter, it was downhill all the way.
Or maybe you just imagined it all.
Anyway. You no longer care.
You haven't seen her for ten years, but her evil spirit still haunts you.
If only you had married someone else, your life could have been so very different.
But it's too late now.
The only time that a good-looking woman ever approaches you these days is to ask you whether or not you are feeling OK and if she should call a doctor.
You don't blame her.
You look like a corpse.
You rub your eyes and look down at your feet.
Your toenails have turned into lethal weapons.
So you reach for the scissors, but they no longer work on them.
You make a mental note to buy some tungsten-hardened cable cutters.
Not that you can actually see your toenails, because they are too far away and your vision is fading by the week.
So you give up on your toenails and brush your hair instead.
Job done!
You shuffle to the kitchen and turn on the kettle.
You hear the postman delivering the mail.
More bills, a parking fine and yet another new takeaway offering two pizzas for the price of one.
You wonder what the cat next door would taste like.
Better than the pizza probably.
You sit at the table, put your head in your hands, and you wonder where it all went wrong.
You follow the trail and it leads you right back to when you were in hospital.
Being born.
Since then your life has been one long tale of misery and woe.
Sometime misery. Sometimes woe.
Most of the time, both.
An occasional beer and the death of someone you hate is the best that you can now look forward to.
You'll be seventy in a few years time.
Probably riding around in a wheelchair.
Sucking your food through a straw.
Most likely you will also be dying slowly from some truly terrible disease.
If you are lucky, your body will be splattered on the roadside in a fatal car accident.
If not, you'll spend your remaining years slowly turning into a vegetable that feels pain.
So you think: What is the point in going on?
You sip your tea and wonder if there remains any purpose to your life.
And sure enough, there is!
All you need to do is to look back at all the feminist-inspired hatred that has been poured upon you throughout most of your life.
You have been portrayed as the devil himself.
You are a child abuser. A wife beater. A sexual harasser. A misogynist. An oppressor of women. A mindless moron.
The list is endless.
To add insult to injury, your country has been sold down the river by your politicians.
You have been forced to hand over a fortune in taxes to pay for numerous things that you never wanted and for ideas that you don't believe in.
Your pension has been gutted so that those who rule over you can live like kings.
Thousands of laws have been purposely designed to stymie your every move and to block your freedom to speak as you wish.
And right now, you have nothing much left to lose.
So my advice is that you go back and look in the mirror again.
Take a good hard look at yourself.
And then tell yourself this.
From now on, I am going to count for something.
From now on, I am going to make my voice heard.
From now on, I am going to do something that I should have done many, many years ago.
I am not just going to fade away and let them get away with what they did.
No more.
I have had enough.
I am going to fight them.
I am going to help to defeat them.
And I am going to try to pay them back for everything that they have done.
I might not be as physically strong as I used to be.
And I certainly don't look so good anymore.
But my age gives me the wisdom to know how to kick up a really good fuss.
.....................................
So, please join us on the internet, support the men's movement in any way that you can, and let us old codgers use some of our remaining years to give these revolting man-hating feminist bigots and their poodle boys exactly what they deserve.
In other words, let's give them hell.
And then if, perchance, you end up dying slowly of some horrible disease that mostly afflicts males and which, therefore, will have received only half the research finding that it ought to have received (because most of the medical funding goes on women's diseases - even when discounting the money spent on their reproductive issues) you will at least have done your bit to pay those scoundrels back.

It is a grand day today, sun shining (well here anyway), soft warm breeze blowing and the MRM finally receiving the recognition it deserves by main stream media and the article (gasp..) actually quoting some of the people involved in the fight against misandry and malice. A good day indeed..

I would like to take this opportunity to congratulate Amanda Marcotte for being sufficiently obnoxious enough to be included on the register-her.com site. To be included on this site is not an easy effort. One would have to clearly demonstrate that your "Dworkin" like "all men are rapists" cliched mentality be demonstrated and your daily behaviour must be sufficiently nasty, even more obnoxious than in order for one to be cast as an exemplary example of an ideal misandric bigot. So well done, it does not say much about your audience does it. It's akin to the Islamist "kill all infidels" or even that other bunch of lunatics who decided that we would no longer exist after a certain date last month, I think it was. Very forgettable just like Marcotte and just like other lunatics and their raging are.we could make a list and name it "losers in History" and her name would automatically be placed at the top or it. It will be the case once the MRM gets a little more mobile than it is now that things will change that should not be too long. Better brush up on your dishwashing skills, Amanduh..

Amanda Marcotte placed on offenders registry

ATTN: BOMB POST !

FROM REGISTER-HER.COM

Register-her.com is dedicated to exposing not only the epidemic of false allegations in western culture, but also in identifying government officials, politicians and gender ideologues that exacerbate the false allegation problem through their own conduct.  For these individuals we have created separate categories that fall outside the realm of direct offenders.
One of those categories is that of “Bigot” and it refers usually to gender ideologues who have sufficient exposure in mainstream media to influence public opinion, policy makers, or both, in a negative way, due to the promotion of bigoted and sexist ideology.
Amanda Marcotte is one such ideologue and she is placed on the registry here because she is an individual who uses her influence in the public sphere in a way that promotes false accusations and fosters denial about the problem.


When commenting on the Duke rape case, after it became increasingly clear that Crystal Gayle Mangum had lied about the incident and that then District Attorney Mike Nifong had long pursued the case knowing that his only witness lacked credibility, Marcotte had this to say:
“In the meantime, I’ve been sort of casually listening to CNN blaring throughout the waiting area and good fucking god is that channel pure evil. For a while, I had to listen to how the poor dear lacrosse players at Duke are being persecuted just because they held someone down and fucked her against her will—not rape, of course, because the charges have been thrown out. Can’t a few white boys sexually assault a black woman anymore without people getting all wound up about it? So unfair.”
She also declared on her blog that people who defended the wrongly accused Duke students were “rape-loving scum.”
These types of statements seek to normalize the assumption of guilt when a rape allegation is made, and also seeks to demonize anyone advocating for the long held legal tradition of due process.  The epithets marking Marcotte’s speech are one indication of bigotry, but this was not her first or only incident of such conduct.
She was forced to resign her position as blog master for the John Edwards presidential campaign after making strings of anti-Christian comments. Bill Donohue of the Catholic League publicly demanded that the Edwards campaign terminate Marcotte’s appointment, calling her a “vulgar trash-talking” bigot. The editorial staff of register-her.com agrees.

Written by Paul Elam

Marcotte got her obnoxious self some additional exposure by the register her site was named and linked..

The article is well worth a read as it does finally present a reasonable summation of the aims and goals of the MRM. We still have a lot of educating to do but we are finally getting the attention we have been struggling and aiming for, a long time now..

Frozen

World Net Daily covers MRM: actually speaks to mra’s, thousands shocked

Lucifer must be lacing up his ice skates. A prominent, mainstream conservative website, worldnetdaily.com, has done an article on the men’s movement, and the author, Phil Elmore, made some groundbreaking changes from the standard blue pill fare we are so used to being served up with Cheese Covered Wacky Fries and a side of bullshit.
One, the article was written with a good measure of objectivity. Yes, that is OB-JEC-TIV-I-TY.  You will need to practice saying this in the same sentence with the word mainstream.
Second, you will find that Elmore actually talked to MRA’s to gather quotes for the piece.  Yes, let me say that again for those shell-shocked. Elmore actually talked to MRA’s to gather quotes for the piece. You will see quotes from myself, Bernard Chapin, and Dr. T, with a mention of John the Other, as well as the much beloved Angry Harry. Not a trace to be found of Michael Kimmel or any other badly cloaked feminist ideologue purporting to speak to the issues of men.
If there is water in hell it will stay in its liquid state, and if not it will be frozen as solid as Harry’s nose.
Read the article here, and I expect we can predict a significant amount of commenting on the piece.  I am quite sure most of you won’t want the voices of raging fembots and shaming white knights to be the only ones there.

Written by Paul Elam