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A quick update on the on the Dads on the Air interview with Kyle Lovett and Barbara Kay with a few interesting links as well..

The Stats that Matter



With special guests:
  • Kyle Lovett
  • Barbara Kay
Kyle Lovett
  Kyle Lovett is a Research Editor and Author at A Voice for Men. Kyle is based in Washington DC in the USA but even at that distance he cannot help but be disturbed about the National Council of Australia’s plan supposedly directed at reducing violence against women.
Some of the recommendations of the Plan have already been implemented following the amendments made to the Family Law Act late last year expanding the definition of what legally constitutes “domestic violence”. Others to follow may include formalising new sexual assault laws which will define legally consensual sexual intercourse. Unless a man gets verbal consent to perform various acts following a direct question he could be facing a rape charge. Furthermore consent can be removed after the fact if the woman claims she was coerced under a broad range of vague or implied threats. And it is the man who has the burden of proof if these types of allegations are made by the woman.
Even the title of the Plan causes great concern: Time for Action: The National Council’s Plan for Australia to Reduce Violence against Women and their Children 2009-2021. Note the use of the word “their” when referring to children. What about the Dads? And the Plan does not even address the physical, emotional or sexual abuse of children.
As to the statistics on which this draconian Plan is supposedly based hear Kyle show where the findings have been ignored, twisted and in some cases deliberately misrepresented.
The Plan has to be of major concern to all fair minded men and women who are witnesses to the vanishing civil rights of Australia’s men.
Barbara Kay
Also in our show today as a special feature we are delighted to welcome back Barbara Kay who is a columnist for the National Post newspaper in Montreal Canada.
Barbara has recently posted an article The awkward truth about spousal abuse. In the article Barbara recognises the achievements of feminists in the 1970’s to redress some of the wrongs from 60 years ago. But now in the 21st century the feminists are fighting among themselves about who are the real feminists and the denial of domestic abuse is still with us, only it has shifted from the female victims to the males.
Honest researchers were surprised to find in study after study that intimate partner violence is mostly bidirectional when feminists and governments still act as though the only victims of domestic violence are women. Erin Pizzey who opened the first refuge for battered women in England in 1971 was expelled from the feminist movement because she dared to ask women about their own violence.
With regard to domestic violence men are where women were 60 years ago.
Listen in to hear Barbara’s candid and eloquent analysis of the current situation and what we should be aiming for in our social, judicial and political attitudes towards violence.
Also check out our new feature where we will be inviting guests to choose a song for the program. Kyle and Barbara both picked interesting songs and they tell us why they made their choice. If you enjoy listening to the song One Life you can find out about Jade Michael and the Tennessee band 17 Stories … and more … by going to his website Artistry Against Misandry.

Next week …
Babies and Toddlers need their Fathers
Kingsley Miller, even Toddlers Need Fathers (UK)
Gil Ronen, Coalition for Children and the Family (Israel)

A couple of new events has caught my attention. The first is ofcourse Kyle Lovett's interview on the Dads on the Air radio program. Kyle is a prolific writer, blogger and researcher. I have posted quite a few articles by Kyle over the last couple of months, they have been filled with facts and figures that are not matched by many. His interview on the DOTA radio show is not to be missed. Link in the right hand Bar..

Also on the same Radio program is the lovely and effervescent Barbara Kay, A women I would easily term as being a lady and one who combats the feminist hate program with ease and alacrity. Both these guys are a pleasure to listen to. It does require Itunes as DOTA have archived all their programs on Itunes (They are down-loadable and free), well worth a listen..

If you do not have Itunes, Link Here..

The second item, and one mentioned by Barbara Kay, is the New Men's Journal site, which is an academic site listing academic papers, opinion pieces and articles about Men and Men's Issues which is also a pleasant and welcomed surprise, here are some details..



 

 

Focus and Scope

NEW MALE STUDIES: AN INTERNATIONAL JOURNAL (NMS) is an open access online interdisciplinary journal for research and discussion of issues facing boys and men worldwide.
Rationale
In response to a now well-documented decline in the overall well-being of males in postmodern culture, a group of Australian, Canadian, European and American scholars have gathered to work together to publish research essays, opinion pieces, and book reviews on all aspects of the male experience.

Articles

Misandry and Emptiness: Masculine Identity in a Toxic Cultural Environment PDF
Paul Nathanson, Katherine K. Young
Towards an Integrated Perspective on Gender, Masculinity, and Manhood PDF
John A. Ashfield
The Bold, Independent Woman Of Today and the “Good” Men and Boys in Her Life: A Sampling of Mainstream Media Representations PDF
Peter Allemano
Moral Panic: Male Studies and the Spectre of Denial PDF
Robert A. Kenedy
But Are the Kids Really All Right? Egalitarian Rhetoric, Legal Theory and Fathers PDF
Katherine K. Young, Paul Nathanson
Meeting Men: Male Intimacy and College Men Centers PDF
Miles Groth
Manliness, Gentlemanliness, and the Manhood Question in George Eliot’s Adam Bede PDF
Dennis Gouws
Boaz Behaving Badly PDF
Malina Saval


The Men's Movement has only ever and will only ever, work for the good of society, as greater minds and everyone involved in it over the centuries has determined it to be. The only problem with society is what radical feminists and feminists as a whole, determine those problems to be..

They are just delusional..

The entire problem with society is that feminism has been allowed to fester and infect society to try and destroy our normal existence and turn it into some loathing cauldron, which it is not. Radical feminism is the by product of marxism and their rampant hate for all is now coming to light. This is what they are teaching your children, they are teaching your children to hate everything and everyone..

Is this the world that you want to raise your children in ?


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The destructive logic of radical feminism

I decided that before I got really deep into the long breadcrumb trail of radical feminists working towards changing laws and policies inside Australia, I wanted to take a moment to discuss radical and mainstream feminism at its base level. At the bottom of the page, I’ll list out several popular books by radical feminists that discuss what their ideology is all about. But I’ve noticed a lot of discussion here on AVFM and other sites questioning just what radical feminism is and if there is any difference to mainstream feminism. I thought it important to give at least my take on feminist and radical feminist theory, as I think it is important to understand what exactly these people are talking about, and what they are so motivated to accomplish.
And, please don’t take my word for it, if you have the stomach, I suggest that you read what this movement’s ideology is, and the very bizarre thought process behind it.
Before I address the condensed list of radical feminist bullet points, I think it is important to touch on leading rad-fem writers position on individual choice. The quick and dirty is that the overwhelming majority of radical feminists don’t believe women have true individual choice. Instead, they think that women who are uneducated on radical feminist theory have no agency over themselves or their actions. According to doctrine, the individual choices of a woman regarding her own body and sexual practices, and even her own actions in life, are a tool of oppression and the patriarchy. No, seriously, they really believe this.
Shelia Jeffreys in her book Beauty and Misogyny (2005 2nd ed) explains this concept in detail:
“I suggest that beauty practices are not about women’s individual choice or a “discursive space” for women’s creative expression but, as other radical feminist theorists have argued before me, a most important aspect of women’s oppression. The feminist philosopher Marilyn Frye has written incisively of what makes a theory feminist, and why it is not enough to rely on women’s individual assurances that a practice is OK with them and in their interests” (p2)
Radical feminist Denise Thompson, in her 2001 book “Radical Feminism Today” expands on this idea of the harm of individualism a bit more:
“The ideology of individualism depicts ‘humanity’ as a set of isolated selves […] Desires, needs, interests, beliefs, actions, feelings, attitudes and behaviours, are perceived as personal properties intrinsic to each individual […] If relations of domination and subordination are interpreted as nothing but properties of individuals, they cannot be seen as relations of ruling at all. They become simply a matter of preferences and choices engaged in by discrete individuals who have no responsibilities beyond their own immediate pleasures and satisfactions. In this libertarian discourse, politics vanishes. If only individuals exist, political critique can only be seen as personal insult or annihilation of the self, and disagreement becomes assertion of the self against threatening and hostile others. ‘Freedom’ is reduced to the absence of constraint, either on the part of the self or of others.”(p43-44)
In other words, Thompson is saying that she believes individualism and individual choices of women are part of the collective oppression of the patriarchy. In Janice Raymond’s 1995 book, “Women as wombs: reproductive technologies and the battle over women’s freedom,” she takes it a step further; that a women’s body is the reproductive agent of the patriarchy.
“The assumption that any reproductive means should be a constitutionally protected procreative liberty ignores the real means used to bring about the desired end. Procreative liberty is not an abstract end, separate from an evaluation of the means. The central fact is that women’s bodies are the reproductive means to others’ reproductive goals.”(p78)
Did I warn you all that this was some very messed up logic? These people have doctorates for God’s sakes. And yes, just a warning, it gets worse.
Like any ideology, views vary greatly from one person to the next. However, these are the basic tenets, some more popular than others, that are seen frequently in radical feminist academic papers and other publications. As we have seen with Sweden, and now other countries devolving the system of laws to fit radical feminist ideology.
  • Heterosexual relationships and marriage are deemed to be at the root of the Patriarchy, and therefore are shunned by almost all radical feminists.
  • What radical feminists call PIV (Penis in Vagina) intercourse, or basically all heterosexual sexual activities, are seen as a tool of oppression and violence towards women.
  • Homosexual relationships are seen as the only route out of their idea of an all encompassing male dominated oppression. (Important: this theory has nothing to do with the rights of LGBT people, and everything to do with literally viewing the male penis as the most oppressive tool of the patriarchy)
  • As discussed above, radical feminists feel that women are not able to make individual choices for themselves that will enable their liberation from men, until they fully understand the theories of radical feminism. They believe that a normal woman’s agency is an illusion. According to this doctrine, while women think they have choice, any choice they make upholds the Patriarchy.
  • All forms of prostitution are seen as both violence against women and as an agent of patriarchy and oppression. Hence, why in Sweden, the laws were crafted so prostitution was only a crime a man could commit. Men are seen as the only side of the transaction with real choice, since in radical feminism, women’s individual choice is actually just the choice of her oppressors, and therefore men should be the only party criminally charged.
  • Almost all spectrum’s of feminism believe that “gender” is learned and not biological in any manner. Transgendered people are seen as deviants, not because they believe it is morally wrong, but because they are either seen as attempting to be a traitor to their sex and join the patriarchy in Female-to-Male cases, or are attempting to infiltrate women only spaces in Male-to-Female cases. It is almost impossible to describe the violent hate that radical feminists have towards transgendered people.
  • Pornography is seen as violence against women and another tool of oppression. Radical feminists believe pornography is not morally wrong, but rather as a show of male deviancy derived from the Patriarchy. Some Radfem’s do create their own pornography, which is obviously lesbian porn, preformed by feminists for the sole intended use of other feminists.
  • Any suffering that men incur during their lives is a product of Patriarchy, and is nothing to be mourned. Indeed, many radical feminists have stated that increased suffering in men is a good thing as it may begin to show them how the Patriarchy hurts them too.
  • In radical feminism, and indeed some more moderate versions of feminism, it is impossible for men to be oppressed. To them, there is no such thing as sexism or bigotry towards men, because men are the ultimate benefactors of privilege, therefore and hatred or animosity towards men simply because of their sex is seen as a positive fight against their oppressors.
  • Radical feminists believe that there should be no difference as a matter of state law between private lives and public lives. They argue that the Patriarchy continues to oppress women in untold numbers behind closed doors.
  • Sexual jokes or crude humor, heterosexual scenes played out in the media and even romantic advances toward women by men is seen as violence against women by radical feminists.
  • As we have seen in the last couple of weeks, some radical feminists believe that the male sex is a biological accident, and that the Y chromosome should be considered a type of defect. (Of course these people ignore the rest of the animal kingdom, and the biological differences between the sexes in other species)
  • Destruction of the “male” gender (not sex, though many have advocated extermination of the male sex) is seen as the ultimate way to freedom.
There is more, a lot more, but I think I’ve conveyed the gist of their ideology. When you start to read these works of radical feminism, which by the way are a lot more popular than almost any ‘mainstream’ feminist, the amount of victimization they place upon themselves is beyond disturbing. You begin to see a pattern quickly emerge, that ultimately attempts to justify any bad action that a woman does as a product of patriarchy, but immerses the reader into desensitizing trance that ignores any harm or suffering that occurs to men or boys above the age of puberty. This model of patriarchy is what is being taught in almost every gender studies class around the world, and has seeped out into the mainstream conscious that men are expendable cogs of oppression.
The big ideological difference between radical feminism and mainstream or liberal feminism, besides the obvious fact that most mainstream feminists completely ignore what absolute vile hate merchants radfems really are, is this idea of choice and free will. While many mainstream feminists believe in both the notion of the all encompassing oppressive patriarchy and also believe that they have real choice in their lives that can do harm or do good, radical feminists think that the proposition for excepting both as true is impossible. What never occurred to either of them is that this myth of patriarchy might just be total horseshit, since it backed up by neither empirical evidence nor statistical data. Furthermore, radical and mainstream feminists are all guilty on some level of marginalizing the suffering of men and boys as something that is less than human. I’ve heard the saying “the patriarchy hurts men too.” I’ve got a new one for them; ‘feminist ideology hurts everyone’.
I think I need a week or two off after writing this, as I don’t think I have encountered so much stupid hatred and ignorant and dehumanizing rhetoric, that not only goes ignored by the majority of our society, but also gets justified by “fun-fems” as just harmless banter. Do they really think that these hate mongers that are in positions of power and prestige, don’t or haven’t influenced law to conform to their agenda? Perhaps they need a trip to Sweden…and maybe Australia soon as well.
Then again, maybe they secretly agree with them.
References for those with a high tolerance for crazy (I refuse to link to any of their books)

Spinster and Her Enemies, Sheila Jeffreys
Politics of Reality, Marilyn Frye
Sister/Outsider, Audre Lorde
Life and Death, Andrea Dworkin
Feminism Unmodified, Catharine MacKinnon
The Whole Woman, Germaine Greer
Female Sexual Slavery, Kathleen Barry
A Passion for Friends, Jan Raymond
Beyond Power: On Women, Men and Morals, Marilyn French


Abuse

A call to mothers to stop killing their children

Iam sure by now you’ve all heard of the rather strange ‘White Ribbon Campaign’, which is also known as the ‘International Day for the Eradication of Violence Against Women.’ This campaign asks that men and boys take an oath in front of others that goes something like “I swear never to commit, excuse or remain silent about violence against women.”[1] In many cases, on college campuses around the world, groups of White Ribbon activists walk around with a basket of white pins, seeking out any man that passes their way, confronting them and then demand that they take this pledge.
Of course women are not expected to take a similar oath, even though in the Western world women are just as likely as men to commit domestic violence towards their partner, and women are three times more likely then men to physically abuse, neglect or murder children in their care.[2][3][4] Furthermore, men are almost six times more likely to be the victim of a violent assault and almost four times as likely to be the victim of a homicide.[5][6]
Since feminists seem to be pushing this campaign rather hard, and receiving so much media attention, I have a few questions that never seem to get answered. Why are men who are the victim of violence viewed as less as important than women who are the victim of violence? Why don’t we also have another ribbon campaign where women pledge not to abuse, neglect or murder their children? Why not also have them take a pledge to not commit domestic violence against men?
In an even more bizarre twist, a new organization has appeared that bills itself as ‘A Call to Men: Committed to Ending Violence Against Women’. On the front page of their professional website is what I can only describe as a bizarre picture, where a group of men, all wearing white shirts, stare blankly into the camera. Underneath this picture that is ‘straight out of a John Waters movie, is their mission and purpose statement:
To galvanize a national movement of men committed to ending violence and discrimination against women and girls.
To influence change in men’s behavior through a re-education and training process that promotes healthy manhood.
To shift social norms defining manhood in our culture
A CALL TO MEN believes that preventing domestic and sexual violence is primarily the responsibility of men. Although historically it has been almost entirely women who have been at the forefront addressing this issue, we think it is essential that men play a primary role in the solution. To do that, well-meaning men…men who, for the most part don’t see themselves as part of the problem…need to get involved.[8]
A Call to Men’s 10 Step Program[7]

Wait, what? Shouldn’t ending violence be the responsibility of both sexes; I mean isn’t violence a human problem? Furthermore, why should some organization take it upon themselves to tell me that I need to redefine my manhood in order to stop harming women? I’ve never abused a man nor a woman in my life,  and indeed most men in our society haven’t abused anyone either. Not only am I supposed to take an oath to not commit a criminal act just because I am a man, they think I need to be “re-educated” about how I define myself as a man, and go through a “training process” to show me what a “healthy manhood” is like. If this isn’t some radical misandric garbage, then I don’t know what is.
Here is what I think about all this. First, these groups, the White Ribbon Campaign and A Call to Men, should go to the grave sides of the 12,000 men who are murdered in the US each year, and give an oath to remember that their lives were just as precious and just as valuable as any other life. Next, since they insist on making this issue about sex, rather than the criminals that perpetrate the violence, I’d ask these groups, as well as the people who passed the various Violence Against Women’s Acts around the world, to go to the grave sides of all the children murdered by their mothers and make an oath to remember that women can be just as violent and deadly as men.
Furthermore, they should track down the endless numbers of men who were, or are, being abused in a relationship by a women, but are too afraid to come forward because society doesn’t think men are as valuable as women, and take an oath to them that their physical and emotional pain is just as imp0rtant as the pain of women. Oh, and don’t forget the tens of thousands of men who are raped in prison each year, but receive neither justice nor physical or emotional support.
I don’t need any organization, government nor university to attempt to define who I am as a man, and I certainly don’t need to be guilted into taking an oath to NOT become a criminal. All human life is valuable, and one sex is NOT more expendable than the other sex.  Men are human beings for God’s sake, not some problem that needs to be solved.
***A Call to Men is run by an organization calling itself the ‘National Association of Men and Women Committed to Ending Violence Against Women’ and is part of a larger group called ‘Tides’. Tides is a very large and well funded foundation that considers itself a group that works toward “positive social change.”[9]


[1]http://theinspirationroom.com/daily/2011/white-ribbon-day-my-oath/
[2]http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/pubs/cm08/table4_5.htm
[3]http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/pubs/cm08/table5_1.htm
[4]http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/opre/abuse_neglect/natl_incid/reports/natl_incid/nis4_report_congress_full_pdf_jan2010.pdf
[5]http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/homicide/gender.cfm
[6]http://www.infoplease.com/us/statistics/murder-victims.html
[7]http://www.acalltomen.com/page.php?id=51
[8]http://www.acalltomen.com/index.php
[9]http://www.tides.org/about/board/