We all remember the day Doctor Doom conquered the world, right? Right?
Seriously? You don't remember that?
Well it went a little something like this...
See, Doom won!!
Well, that was a fun post. Now to...
What? You want an explanation?!?
Sigh, you youngsters.
Fortunately, someone chose this very minute to burst into Castle Doom:
Well, the book IS called Super-Villain Team-Up, after all!
But Doom doesn't need your stinkin' help!
How?!?
Yup. We were all Doom's slaves that day.
But Doom is not satisfied, because as he monologued above, it was all too easy. So, he proposes a contest!
Dude, you roofied Magneto!!
OK, it was the cure, too, so I guess it's OK.
Maggy takes the logical first step of going to the Avengers for help...
...they don't believe him--because who could ever believe that magneto would become a good guy? (cough. cough).
But after some pointless fisticuffs (the best kind), they agree to listen:
But they don't believe...
Until:
OK, so that didn't go well.
Well, magneto chooses a) the guy he knows, and b) the guy with connections to other teams.
And after some highly improbable science...
Well, the Beast is on board. But it turns out...
...no one is home!!
So they fly all the way out to the west coast, where some of Hank's old buddies have joined a new team:
Well, more pointless fisticuffs ensue, and Doom doesn't even need to assert control over the heroes, because everyone knows that Magneto could never, ever be a good guy! (cough. cough.)
Until we get a radio broadcast:
And it turns out...
...that even Jimmy Carter can't resist Doom!!
Damn, Doom, you're soooo picky.
Anyway, the Champions followed Magneto and Hank to DC, and Doom asserts control...
Except one of the Champions is apparently immune to the gas:
So...the Vision was vulnerable, but Ghost Rider wasn't? Magic, I guess...?
Maggy decides to go mano a mano with Von Doom...
...until Beast and Ghost Rider settle the match!
Uh-oh...
Oh, yeah, Hulk showed up, too.
Anyway, yeah, with Doom a victim of his own gas, he can't control anyone anymore. No, I'm not sure how that works, either.
Magneto wins...
...but when he leaves...
Hank forgets everything that happened...because the gas wipes his memory? Wait, does this even begin to make sense?
Well, I guess it's because everyone still has to obey Doom, but now Doom has to obey himself, and it all gets very dazed and confused:
So...OK, that still makes no sense.
Still, that was the 70s, man...Victor Von Doom took over the world, and no one remembers--not even him!!
From Super-Villain Team-Up #14 & Champions #16 (1977)
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Saturday, December 13, 2014
Spoiler Saturday--Those Who Don't Know Marvel History Are Condemned To Whine About It Anyway
So, something happened in Axis #Whatever this week, and people who have read it are all atwitter.
And even though I haven't read it, well, I've got things to say about (even though it may not be what you expect me to say about it).
So if you haven't read Dumb Marvel Event #Blahblah yet and plan too, you might want to come back another time.
If you are ready to discuss Marvel history (and the lack thereof), well, SPOILERS commence after the five in-no-way-relevant pictures of a couple of super-heroes. See ya there...
Still there?
OK, let's begin.
If you haven't heard, in Axis #7, it's revealed that, shock, Magneto isn't actually the father of Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch. No "blood in common" at all.
I didn't buy the comic, so I don't have anything to scan, but you can see details here at this page if you're dying to know.
Of course, this has caused wailing and rent garments. More than one "professional" site bemoaned that this retcon had "wiped out 50 years of Marvel history."
Seriously...that level of ignorance, and people pay them to display it publicly. I'm in the wrong part of the business, I guess.
Let's make one thing perfectly clear. This did NOT retcon away "50 years" of Marvel history. And if someone can't bother to even look something like that up, well, it kind of devalues their complaint.
In brief, Wanda and Pietro's origins and parentage have never, EVER been anything but retcon. Pure and simple. So join me in a brief history tour.
When we first met them, orphaned Wanda and Pietro were rescued from one of those European mobs by Magneto:
That was told to us in X-Men #4 (1964)...this panel, re-telling it, was from Avengers #47 (1967).
And there was no clue, no hint, that Magneto was their father...just their rescuer and benefactor (and manipulator). And if Stan and Roy didn't think he was their dad, well, you've got no basis to say the most recent change wiped out 50 years of history...because that history didn't exist for quite awhile yet.
Then, in Giant-Size Avengers #1 (1974), Roy, as he usually did, tied everything into the Golden Age:
In brief: Bob Frank (The Whizzer!) and Madeleine Joyce (Miss America!) married after the war, but due to radiation exposure, their first-born child was a radioactive monster who was buried for decades. When she became pregnant again, they went to the High Evolutionary for help, and healthy twins were born. But Madeleine died soon after, and Bob Frank went mad with grief and abandoned them, and they were raised in Wundagore, until they left to make they own way in the world (which obviously worked well, as they were almost killed by a mob and "saved" by a genocidal maniac).
Again, if you're not keeping up--40 years ago...and Magneto is still not their father. But we've already done one major retcon. So why not a few more?
In Avengers #181 (1979), an old man named Django Maximoff showed up, claiming to be their real father!!
Yeah, he also trapped their souls in puppets. Shit happens.
So, as Django tells the tale...
Well.
Barely 5 years later, and it's retcon time again.
But this lasted just a couple of minutes, because it was part of a larger retcon arc, as we learn in Avengers #186 (1979):
Wow, we're getting complicated here. Magda was fleeing from a dangerously powerful husband, who didn't know that she was pregnant with twins (George Lucas, you owe Marvel a fairly large royalty check, methinks). She gave birth at Wundagore, but split (& presumably died in the harsh conditions).
Meanwhile, we get the part we already knew, where the Franks came. But their child was actually stillborn, and Bova decided to give them the twins as theirs. But the Whizzer was a jerk and left, so the High Evolutionary gave the twins to some locals--Django Maximoff and his wife--to raise.
So, everything is all wrapped up. Except--who was their actual father, who was Magda's husband? They didn't tell us here, except for some coy non-denials in the letters page and lots of winking and nudging.
But it wasn't until this 1983 issue that it was finally officially confirmed:
So, it wasn't until after 2 or 3 prior retcons that the twins "became" Magneto's children, some 32 years ago--not "50 years of Marvel history."
The "history" that people are complaining about losing didn't even exist until 1983 (although Marvel had obviously been planning it in the 1979 stories). And it's not even their original origin story--it's Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch Mark III, as it were!!
So yes, Marvel has retconned away the retcon. And no, I don't believe we've gotten the "new" origin yet, and I don't think we get it until the 1st issue of the relaunched Uncanny Avengers. So we don't know if Magda was still their mother, and if so who was making time with Magneto's lady.
We can guess, though, from the "Mutants No More" promos Marvel has been pumping out, we're going to learn that they're Inhumans, because trendy.
[Interestingly, Marvel is apparently SO serious about this new retcon, they've tried to hide the above issue--Vision And The Scarlet Witch #4--on Marvel Unlimited, labeling it "Digital issue not currently available," even though you can still find it if you know where to click. Trying to cover up any actual evidence that the twins are actually related to Magneto, I guess...]
So, first of all, everyone calm down. This is merely the latest of a no-doubt infinite series of retcons for the duo. We should be used to it by now, especially if we know our history.
Secondly, though--geez, Marvel, why go to all that trouble?!? Who cares if they're mutant or Inhuman? Frankly, who gives a flying fig who gets to use them in which movie??
One of the reason writers are obsessed with retconning Wanda and Pietro is that they are fundamentally uninteresting characters, and the only interest to be wrung out of them is their increasingly convoluted origins relating them to other Marvel characters.
Quicksilver is a speedster, but he's not fast enough to be as inherently as interesting as the Flash, and aside from being an arrogant jerk, there is really not one noteworthy thing about the character. They tried to make people care by marrying him to the most boring Inhuman, Crystal, but that just resulted in a boring daughter.
The Scarlet Witch, meanwhile, has always been trapped by a ridiculously vague power set, which never works the same way in anyone's run, which lead writers to continually ramp her up until she is near Beyonder level in power. Combined with their obsession to continually subject her to emotional torture just because (your kids aren't real!! We killed your husband!! You're a pawn of Cthon! You're a pawn of Immortus!! Etc.), and we've arrived at a genocidal maniac who is a just an all too convenient way to frak up Marvel's reality/timeline whenever it is "needed." Seriously, if you get rid of Wanda, Avengers Dissembled, House Of M and No More Mutants never happened; and of course it was Wanda's spell that caused the whole Axis "inversion" in the first place. Wanda is nowadays merely an all-powerful plot device, merely a crutch upon which to continually base the next absurdly-premised crossover storyline. With the amount of damage and torment she causes, it's incomprehensible that no one in the Marvel Universe has put a bullet in her damned head yet.
So this latest "revelation?" It probably doesn't even make list of top ten atrocities visited upon Wanda (and nobody cares about Pietro, so no one is even keeping track of that). Magneto wasn't their father when I started reading comics, and no he isn't again. The Scarlet Witch had a mind-numbingly undefinable power, and she still does. Quicksilver was a third-rate speedster not as interesting as any of DC's 30 speedsters, and he still isn't.
Now, if you want to talk about Marvel's constant killing and resurrecting of Scott and Cassie Lang, well, there's an atrocity...
And even though I haven't read it, well, I've got things to say about (even though it may not be what you expect me to say about it).
So if you haven't read Dumb Marvel Event #Blahblah yet and plan too, you might want to come back another time.
If you are ready to discuss Marvel history (and the lack thereof), well, SPOILERS commence after the five in-no-way-relevant pictures of a couple of super-heroes. See ya there...
Still there?
OK, let's begin.
If you haven't heard, in Axis #7, it's revealed that, shock, Magneto isn't actually the father of Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch. No "blood in common" at all.
I didn't buy the comic, so I don't have anything to scan, but you can see details here at this page if you're dying to know.
Of course, this has caused wailing and rent garments. More than one "professional" site bemoaned that this retcon had "wiped out 50 years of Marvel history."
Seriously...that level of ignorance, and people pay them to display it publicly. I'm in the wrong part of the business, I guess.
Let's make one thing perfectly clear. This did NOT retcon away "50 years" of Marvel history. And if someone can't bother to even look something like that up, well, it kind of devalues their complaint.
In brief, Wanda and Pietro's origins and parentage have never, EVER been anything but retcon. Pure and simple. So join me in a brief history tour.
When we first met them, orphaned Wanda and Pietro were rescued from one of those European mobs by Magneto:
That was told to us in X-Men #4 (1964)...this panel, re-telling it, was from Avengers #47 (1967).
And there was no clue, no hint, that Magneto was their father...just their rescuer and benefactor (and manipulator). And if Stan and Roy didn't think he was their dad, well, you've got no basis to say the most recent change wiped out 50 years of history...because that history didn't exist for quite awhile yet.
Then, in Giant-Size Avengers #1 (1974), Roy, as he usually did, tied everything into the Golden Age:
In brief: Bob Frank (The Whizzer!) and Madeleine Joyce (Miss America!) married after the war, but due to radiation exposure, their first-born child was a radioactive monster who was buried for decades. When she became pregnant again, they went to the High Evolutionary for help, and healthy twins were born. But Madeleine died soon after, and Bob Frank went mad with grief and abandoned them, and they were raised in Wundagore, until they left to make they own way in the world (which obviously worked well, as they were almost killed by a mob and "saved" by a genocidal maniac).
Again, if you're not keeping up--40 years ago...and Magneto is still not their father. But we've already done one major retcon. So why not a few more?
In Avengers #181 (1979), an old man named Django Maximoff showed up, claiming to be their real father!!
Yeah, he also trapped their souls in puppets. Shit happens.
So, as Django tells the tale...
Well.
Barely 5 years later, and it's retcon time again.
But this lasted just a couple of minutes, because it was part of a larger retcon arc, as we learn in Avengers #186 (1979):
Wow, we're getting complicated here. Magda was fleeing from a dangerously powerful husband, who didn't know that she was pregnant with twins (George Lucas, you owe Marvel a fairly large royalty check, methinks). She gave birth at Wundagore, but split (& presumably died in the harsh conditions).
Meanwhile, we get the part we already knew, where the Franks came. But their child was actually stillborn, and Bova decided to give them the twins as theirs. But the Whizzer was a jerk and left, so the High Evolutionary gave the twins to some locals--Django Maximoff and his wife--to raise.
So, everything is all wrapped up. Except--who was their actual father, who was Magda's husband? They didn't tell us here, except for some coy non-denials in the letters page and lots of winking and nudging.
But it wasn't until this 1983 issue that it was finally officially confirmed:
So, it wasn't until after 2 or 3 prior retcons that the twins "became" Magneto's children, some 32 years ago--not "50 years of Marvel history."
The "history" that people are complaining about losing didn't even exist until 1983 (although Marvel had obviously been planning it in the 1979 stories). And it's not even their original origin story--it's Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch Mark III, as it were!!
So yes, Marvel has retconned away the retcon. And no, I don't believe we've gotten the "new" origin yet, and I don't think we get it until the 1st issue of the relaunched Uncanny Avengers. So we don't know if Magda was still their mother, and if so who was making time with Magneto's lady.
We can guess, though, from the "Mutants No More" promos Marvel has been pumping out, we're going to learn that they're Inhumans, because trendy.
[Interestingly, Marvel is apparently SO serious about this new retcon, they've tried to hide the above issue--Vision And The Scarlet Witch #4--on Marvel Unlimited, labeling it "Digital issue not currently available," even though you can still find it if you know where to click. Trying to cover up any actual evidence that the twins are actually related to Magneto, I guess...]
So, first of all, everyone calm down. This is merely the latest of a no-doubt infinite series of retcons for the duo. We should be used to it by now, especially if we know our history.
Secondly, though--geez, Marvel, why go to all that trouble?!? Who cares if they're mutant or Inhuman? Frankly, who gives a flying fig who gets to use them in which movie??
One of the reason writers are obsessed with retconning Wanda and Pietro is that they are fundamentally uninteresting characters, and the only interest to be wrung out of them is their increasingly convoluted origins relating them to other Marvel characters.
Quicksilver is a speedster, but he's not fast enough to be as inherently as interesting as the Flash, and aside from being an arrogant jerk, there is really not one noteworthy thing about the character. They tried to make people care by marrying him to the most boring Inhuman, Crystal, but that just resulted in a boring daughter.
The Scarlet Witch, meanwhile, has always been trapped by a ridiculously vague power set, which never works the same way in anyone's run, which lead writers to continually ramp her up until she is near Beyonder level in power. Combined with their obsession to continually subject her to emotional torture just because (your kids aren't real!! We killed your husband!! You're a pawn of Cthon! You're a pawn of Immortus!! Etc.), and we've arrived at a genocidal maniac who is a just an all too convenient way to frak up Marvel's reality/timeline whenever it is "needed." Seriously, if you get rid of Wanda, Avengers Dissembled, House Of M and No More Mutants never happened; and of course it was Wanda's spell that caused the whole Axis "inversion" in the first place. Wanda is nowadays merely an all-powerful plot device, merely a crutch upon which to continually base the next absurdly-premised crossover storyline. With the amount of damage and torment she causes, it's incomprehensible that no one in the Marvel Universe has put a bullet in her damned head yet.
So this latest "revelation?" It probably doesn't even make list of top ten atrocities visited upon Wanda (and nobody cares about Pietro, so no one is even keeping track of that). Magneto wasn't their father when I started reading comics, and no he isn't again. The Scarlet Witch had a mind-numbingly undefinable power, and she still does. Quicksilver was a third-rate speedster not as interesting as any of DC's 30 speedsters, and he still isn't.
Now, if you want to talk about Marvel's constant killing and resurrecting of Scott and Cassie Lang, well, there's an atrocity...
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