The Price (Uxbridge Football Club 22nd December 1990) and Buzzcocks (Stardust Ballroom Hollywood 12th December 1979) - Got It Covered #1

 

Early yesterday evening, at the end of another working week, I picked up a pen and paper and put my mind to bands that have covered other people's songs (as mentioned earlier, it didn't take long for it to dawn on me that such a list would include nearly every band who have ever got to stage two of being in a band i.e. picking up an instrument (stage one of course involving coming up with a band name!)).

For some reason, one of the first bands that came to mind were The Price. A previous recording that I posted on here (Angler's Retreat, West Drayton... on here somewhere) saw them plating 'Ever Fallen In Love...' and 'Turning Japanese'. On this recording from Uxbridge Football Club where they played with TV Smith's Cheap at Christmas time 1990 they played a different Buzzcocks cover, the brilliant 'You Say You Don't Love Me' from their third studio album, 'A Different Kind Of Tension' released in 1979. 

I cannot recall why I was not at this gig.... the one in Uxbridge as opposed to the one in Hollywood. I can only assume that so close to Christmas I may have gone back to Sussex for the break.

A search for a flyer for this gig lead me to The Price's Facebook page, from which it became apparent that this gig was an early post on the Aural Sculptors site, but one that was lost in the technological ether as a consequence of the demise of the Rapidshare platform. So here it is again, with some artwork now. 

At the time Leigh posted a comment on this gig:

'I remember this show - Cheap were great as usual, and although our performance was somewhat hampered by our singer Malcolm over-indulging in Christmas spirit we played well too.

I saw Cheap play many times and they were rarely less than excellent. T'V. tells me that their one and only album 'R.I.P. - Everything Must Go!' is about to be reissued with extra tracks, which is good news as it means that more people may get to discover this criminally underrated band.

Incidentally The Price will be reforming to play at The London Punk Festival at The 229 Club in London on the last weekend of September, where I'm also playing with Ruts D.C. and T.V. Smith - as you say Adrian, the lengths I'll go to to avoid getting a normal job... (note this post is from 2012!)

Cheers - Leigh'

MP3: https://we.tl/t-zBnaemLa0EPXzci6

Artwork: https://we.tl/t-62A3Yf1oL2iyUvF3

And so to the original. 'You Say You Don't Love Me' is a Pete Shelley penned lament to unrequited love (on record at least he must have been one of the 'unluckiest in love' individuals in Greater Manchester!). The song appears on side one ('The Rose On The Chocolate Box'... side two being 'The Thorn Beneath The Rose'!) of 'A Different Kind Of Tension', the band's last before their original parting of the ways. 

'You say you don't love me

Well, that's alright with me, 'cause I have got the time

To wait in case someday you maybe change your mind

I've decided not to make the same mistakes this time around

As I'm tired of having heartaches, I've been thinking and I've found

I don't want to live in a dream, I want something real

And I think I understand now the way that you feel.'

Here are Buzzcocks on the US West Coast at the end of '79, promoting the album that had been released in the UK back in September.

But who did they play with in Los Angeles that December. The gig ad below indicates that the Alleycats and the Zippers provided support on the night. And I checked that the 12th December 1979 did fall on a Wednesday. Elsewhere on the net is a poster for the same date indicating that Squeeze were on the bill. It may be the case, but Squeeze had been in the US in April of that year supporting The Tubes and they appear to have been playing dates in the UK that bookend this Hollywood gig (Squeeze at St Mary College, London on 24th November (as part of a UK tour) and at Lewisham Odeon on 22nd December with the Police). Are there any Buzzcocks/Squeeze aficionado reading this who can set the record straight on this point?

FLAC: https://we.tl/t-4AKjogJRSDX5vdRK

Artwork: https://we.tl/t-Fm4ZPjTgBqEyPE4w

West London Calling ‘No Justice’ by The Price

 

I cannot pinpoint the exact date when I first became acquainted with Leigh Heggarty, it really is lost in the mists of time. It was about 33 years ago, that much I can stand by and I am fairly confident that it would have been at The Angler’s Retreat pub in West Drayton. It could have been at one of his own gigs with The Price or maybe on the first occasion that I saw TV Smith’s forgotten outfit ‘Cheap’.

At that time, I sported a leather jacket on the back of which I had painted one of Steve Beaumont’s caricatures of JJ Burnel. Clearly this had earlier been spied at a gig somewhere in London as one morning in the centre of Uxbridge, a chap called Tony Clarke called me over for a chat having remembered the jacket. Tony was one of a group of Uxbridge area music fans that coalesced around this band called The Price. It is funny to think that 30 plus years down the line I have retained good friendships with as many people from the Uxbridge music scene, such as it was, as fellow students from Brunel University (the reason that I landed in Uxbridge for four years).

Since their original incarnation they have come back together on a number of occasions. I went back to The Angler’s Retreat to see them many years later as well as seeing them play a few times at the sorely missed Square in Harlow.

Now, all of these years later they are about to release their debut album. Entitled ‘No Justice’ it is a fine collection of 19 studio recordings from 1988 to 1993.

I do not think that I am doing the band a disservice when I say that whilst they came close they missed the break that several of their contemporaries such as The Senseless Things and Mega City Four enjoyed in the early 1990’s. This, as they would probably admit themselves, was in part an unwillingless to bow to record company expectations of how they should sound… an admirable stance I think for a guitar band to take in the musical climate of the day.

It is great to see that this material that meant so much to people in those miserable days of the late Thatcher era is finally getting a formal release.

And with that, here is more detail from the album’s press release:

‘THE PRICE - 'NO JUSTICE?' album press release

33 1/3 years after they released their first single THE PRICE release their debut album ‘NO JUSTICE?’ on Cadiz Records cat. no. CADIZCD221 - nineteen studio recordings from 1988-1993.

The Price played hundreds of shows during this time, including support slots to Transvision Vamp, Carter The Unstoppable Sex Machine, The Lords Of The New Church, Wilko Johnson, Mega City Four, Senseless Things, John Otway and many more, as well as sharing the stage with contemporaries like Red Letter Day, The Newtown Neurotics, The Chairs, Action Pact, TV Smith’s Cheap, Who Moved The Ground?, The Shout and Porky The Poet (now better known as Phill Jupitus) among others.

They also toured the UK with The Lurkers and were one of the few bands to play in East Germany (including gigging in Leipzig and East Berlin and a recording session in Halle as well as supporting Half Japanese in Magdeburg and Cottbus) before The Wall came down.

The band appeared on a compilation album with The Manic Street Preachers (who they were booked to support but who got too big for the gig!) and their two 7” singles 'The Price You Pay' / 'The Man With The Smile' and 'So What About Love?' / Between The Lies' were both Single Of The Week in The NME and Sounds magazines.

BBC radio presenter Steve Lamacq was an early champion of the band, and ex-Ruts guitarist Paul Fox produced their second single ‘So What About Love?’ They also went on to work with famed and fabled producer Pip Williams who also produced Status Quo, Dr. Feelgood and more.

Although the band released a six-track mini-album ‘The Table Of Uncles’ in 1990 they were never able to release a full-length LP at the time, so this release collects together many of their best-loved songs in a long overdue overview of their career.

Price guitarist Leigh Heggarty now plays in Ruts D.C., and has also worked with Henry Rollins, Alvin Gibbs & The Disobedient Servants, Wayne Kramer, T. V. Smith, Department S and many more.’

The album features the following tracks:

1. No Justice
2. So Sure
3. Marching On
4. Matter Of Time
5. It Hurts
6. Crazy Times
7. So Cold
8. Wonderland
9. Slip Away
10. Close The Curtains
11. Jodie
12. Standing In Your Way
13. Between The Lines
14. So What About Love?
15. Shattered Land
16. The Cover Up
17. On The Ice
18. The Man With The Smile
19. The Price You Pay

And the album is available to buy here:

https://www.viveleshop.com/products/the-price-no-justice-cd?_pos=1&_sid=19e6ed00d&_ss=r

The Price Angler's Retreat West Drayton 27th July 1989

OK to continue with the Leigh Heggarty theme! Earlier on I mentioned my first encounter with The Price was in West Drayton. Whilst it was at the Angler's Retreat, this would not have been at a gig that I would have been at since I would have been on a work placement in Basingstoke at this time. Not sure who recorded this, Chris Braund perhaps?

Owen, look! They even did 'Turning Japanese'.

FLAC: https://we.tl/7G4RPPpNxK

01. The Cover Up
02. Can’t Remember Why
03. Fight
04. Running Out Of Time
05. Yesterday’s Man
06. What Can I Say
07. Getting Nowhere
08. You’re Gone
09. On The Ice
10. Too Many People
11. Ever Fallen In Love (With Someone You Shouldn’t’ve)

01. The Price You Pay
02. Shattered Land
03. So What About Love
04. Was It You?
05. Memory
06. Between The Lines
07. Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow?
08. Hawaii 5-0
09. Turn Around
10. Dancing On A Saturday Night
11. Turning Japanese

Leigh Heggarty (Ruts DC) Interview February 2017

Leigh Heggarty of Ruts DC at the 100 Club (Ruffy looks on)

(Photo: Andy Miller)

Some weeks ago I posted an interview that I did with Segs and Ruffy, Ruts DC's fabulous rhythm section (here), however we all know that every rhythm section needs a guitarist and theirs takes the form of Leigh Heggarty. In the interest of even handedness I asked Leigh whether he would be happy to answer a few questions on his musical past that ultimately has taken him into the studio and onto the road as a Rut since 2011. Leigh was happy to oblige and here are the results. Cheers Leigh, enjoy the tour!

Q. I arrived in Uxbridge in 1988, the country was off its collective head on acid house and locally there was not a great deal going on musically. However, it was not always so, as an Uxbridge resident of long-standing what was the local music scene like earlier on?

A. From what I can gather there has always been a fair bit of live music in the area - for example Burtons in Uxbridge was a very popular venue in the 1960s. I suppose the main focus for me was Brunel University - I can remember seeing posters for bands like John Entwistle's Ox and Thin Lizzy gigging there in the mid-'70's before I started going to see bands. Incidentally if I'd had been old enough then I would definitely gone to those two shows! Probably the best thing about it from my point of view was that they would put on a wide variety of acts - say a heavy metal gig one week and an acoustic band the next - meaning that it was possible to see many different types of music. The venue had something of a resurgence in the 1980s with the likes of The Stone Roses and Transvision Vamp appearing there, and The Price played there on quite a few occasions - it still exists but sadly it doesn't seem to put on gigs anymore, or if it does then they're not open to the general public which is a great pity.

Ad for Thin Lizzy's gig at Brunel (1976)

Q. I know that you have been excited in the past to have had the opportunity to support Wilko Johnson and indeed a Feelgood’s logo pin is often to be seen on your lapel. Who has influenced you as a fan, and perhaps more specifically as a guitarist?

A. My first musical memories are of The Beatles back in the 1960s when I was a little lad - my mum always said that I asked her why one of their guitars were pointing the other way when I was only about 3 or 4 years old. I also liked The Stones, Who, Kinks etc before T.Rex made a big impression on me as did The Faces, Slade, The Sweet and the other glam rockers. I spent most of my milk round money on their singles before discovering Dr. Feelgood when they appeared on the teatime kid's TV show 'The Geordie Scene' in early 1975. I also liked some heavier rock music which I heard from my older cousins Gary and Steve in Birkenhead who we used to go to stay with in the school holidays. I was inspired to start playing the guitar when Gary got one sometime in the mid-'70's, although I then discovered to my absolute horror that you didn't just pick it up and play it and so left it alone for quite a while. Eventually I got to grips with the basics around the time the punk bands started appearing, although I recall being more interested in sounding like Rory Gallagher at the time. I found a guitar teacher (Tony) who lived a few streets away from us who it turned out went to school with, of all people, Paul Fox. He taught classical guitar and I learned a lot about music from him, which was great as I didn't study it at school. I began playing in bands quite late (I had a go at school and just after but that was so awful that it put me off for ages!) as I started working in a factory straight after leaving school which effected me very badly - I wasn't cut out for the world of conventional work. After a few false starts I got a band called The Others together who split up at the end of 1984, and I then formed The Price in 1985. If I had to pick a favourite player then it would have to be Pete Townshend; other influences include John Lennon and George Harrison, Steve Cropper, Mick Green, Keith Richards, Steve Jones, Gypie Mayo, Danny Kustow, Jimi Hendrix and many many more - not forgetting the aforementioned Mr. Johnson of course. 

Q. I first became aware of your music many years ago. I think that I can pin it down to a gig at The Angler’s Retreat in West Drayton, either supporting Cheap (TV Smith band at the time) or just with The Price. For the purpose of this interview I dug out an old issue of the ‘Wake Up’ fanzine from 1992 in which your lead singer described The Price as ‘probably one of the most unfashionable bands ‘cos we stick to what we really believe in’. That said, at that time guitar bands were once more in the ascendancy and potentially The Price were in the right place at the right time. How was it that the band never got a record out and is it irksome to you that after five or so years together it never broke for the band?

A. Well as you say The Price were potentially in the right place at the right time with the likes of The Senseless Things and Mega City Four (both of whom we supported on several occasions) attaining a fair amount of recognition and success. Looking back I realise that we were pretty much outsiders in every way; I remember a conversation with an A&R man who advised me to 'think about your melody lines, they need to be more commercial' - we never attempted to make anything that we did be more commercial, let alone our songs which I guess is all you need to know. That said I wouldn't change any of it - we were honest and that means a lot.

In the course of preparing this post I took a look on the 'Brunel Bands' blogspot and in doing so came across a review of The Price from the 30th November 1989 when they played a support slot to Thrilled Skinny and the aforementioned Mega City Four. This was during my time at Brunel but I wasn't in attendance that night for some reason. Reading on I saw a review from the student paper 'Le Nurb' (hilarious student humour (???) as it is Brunel backwards). Two extracts caught my eye, that seemed to sum up Leigh's take on his former band:

“It seems to  be the trend in Le Nurb to say that local support band The Price are just a bunch of lads who play to crowds of sixth formers. Well I don`t care – I went to see The Price instead of the Stone Roses last years and I`d probably do it again”.

Jim Pressley – Le Nurb

and

"A local band from Uxbridge, consisting of Malcolm (Vocals), Leigh (Guitar), Huggy (Bass) and Mick Drums and a regular band to play at the Academy at Brunel University.  Paul Fox of The Ruts produced a number of their singles. The Price were well received and played a set containing many of their classics such as “Man with a smile“, “What about love“, This shattered land” and “Between the lies”

"They`ll never be a band that`ll break big `coz they wont get asked to – a good job too, then they`ll continue to be Brunel’s best support act.”

Jim Pressley – Le Nurb

What made me laugh is that I shared a house with the reviewer for three years around the Hayes and Southall area!

'Brunel's best support act' The Price, with Leigh (far left)

Q. After the initial demise of The Price, in the time honoured tradition you got back together, it must have been ten or so years ago and I found myself once again at the bar in The Angler’s Retreat. Was that reunion supposed to be more permanent or was it always intended to be the last hurrah for the band?

A. We did indeed get together for what was intended to be a one-off show at the aforementioned Anglers Retreat 10 years after the band split up and have reconvened occasionally ever since. I guess we've all forgiven each other for whatever it was that split the band up, or realised we weren't to blame in the first place, or something...

Q. I’ll come to Ruts DC later on, but notably you have also shared the stage with TV Smith. Did that relationship stem from earlier gigs when you both appeared on the bill?

A. Yes it did. The Price played with T.V. Smith's Cheap on several occasions (it looked great on the posters!) and I always got on well with Tim and indeed the rest of the band. One of the Price's sporadic reunion shows was at a birthday party for our roadie / merch man Steve and we invited Tim along to play a solo set - as we were setting up we remembered an occasion in 1991 when our two bands were playing together and Cheap's guitarist Mik couldn't make the gig so T.V. played a solo show with me joining him and the rest of the band for a few numbers at the end. To cut a long story short we played a couple of songs together at the party and it all went from there. I still play occasional duo shows with him and they're always a absolute pleasure to be part of.

Q. Your musical tastes I know to be rather eclectic and from your own blog, ‘Leigh’s Mad World of Guitars (http://leighheggarty.blogspot.co.uk/) it would appear that you are something of a six-string for hire, playing in a wide range of bands over a number of musical genres. Which do you prefer, the live experience or the process of recording?

A. I'm lucky enough to enjoy both, although I find that they're both very different to each another. I've always liked many different styles of music - I don't think that there's any reason why you can't for example like pop music if you like punk rock, to my mind there's nothing wrong with enjoying them both if they appeal to you. I try to bring that mentality to both performing live and studio work - it's all about doing what's right for the situation that you find yourself in, and there's a discipline involved in recording that's different to the spontaneity of a live show. Both good, but as I say both very different from each other.  Incidentally I've never seen myself as a 'six-string for hire' - maybe I would be richer if I had!

Q. Your formal association with Ruts DC started with the preparation for Rut’s guitarist Paul Fox’s benefit gig in July 2007 (at that time Paul was battling with terminal lung cancer). How did it come about that you got the gig to step into Paul’s big shoes?

A. One evening a few days before Paul's last show (at The Islington Academy with Henry Rollins on vocals) I received a call from Dave Ruffy which began with the immortal words 'what are you doing tomorrow?' They were due to be rehearsing for the gig the next afternoon but Paul was too unwell and he'd suggested me as a stand-in (they also rehearsed with the then - manager of the Blockheads Lee Harris but he couldn't make this session) so I spent the rest of the evening revising all those Ruts riffs that I'd learned sitting on the end of my bed all those years ago. The rehearsal went well - really well as it happens - and the subsequent show was of course a classic. Over the next few months Dave and Segs got together and 'Rhythm Collision Volume 2' began to take shape, and I'm pleased to say that they invited me to contribute to the album. After it's release there was the offer of a show at a dub festival in France - that fell through but The Alabama 3 (who Segs was also playing with at the time) offered the band a few support shows in late 2011. And the rest, as they (whoever 'they' are) say, is history.

Paul's last gig (16th July 2007)

Q. Since reforming in 2011, Ruts DC have gone from strength to strength, with two studio albums and a live album under their belts already. From the standpoint of both a fan and now an insider, how do you view the legacy of The Ruts and Ruts DC?

A. Well I know from talking to people at gigs that there is a lot of respect for the original band and of course for The Ruts. It's interesting to note that when we first started playing together fans of the band were bemused to find that Dave and Segs didn't seem think that many people would be too interested in seeing Ruts DC again. Happily this has of course proved not to be the case. For what my thoughts are worth The Ruts were easily one of the best bands of the punk era, and Ruts DC were severely underrated at the time - I'm very aware that every time we walk out on stage to play there will be people in the audience who will agree and therefore it's very important not to let them down. Hopefully we don't!

Q. As a gigging musician, what in your opinion can be done to stem the tide of small, independent music venue closures? I have here The Square in Harlow at the front of my mind, a venue that I know is close to your heart. After a brief respite, that venue again finds itself under threat of closure.

A. The Square in Harlow was a good example of a venue with an open booking policy - the sort of approach that I referred to in my first answer where any type of music would be given a chance, which makes it's recent demise all the harder to take. The Price played there many times, and I was fortunate enough to play three songs with Eddie And The Hot Rods at the venue's closing night - if it's possible to have emotion for a building then it was certainly there on that occasion. Sadly as more and more people think that the only way to get 'discovered' is to be part of the 'X Factor' / 'Britain's Got Talent' circus live music venues are likely to seem less and less important to potential performers, which is a crying shame. What can be done to stop it happening? Well I guess we all have to get out and watch more live music and support the places that are still putting bands and artists on - easier said than done I know, but if there's no audience then there can / will be no venues…

Q. In March of next year, Ruts DC are confirmed as the opening act of The Stranglers 2017 tour. It’s a fantastic billing and I know that the pairing has made many aged punks very happy. Real good value for money in these times of austerity! What are your expectation of this tour?

Ad for the 'No More Heroes' tour gig from the student paper (the closest I got to seeing the bloody band at Brunel University!)

A. Well to say that I'm looking forward to the tour is, to coin a phrase, the understatement of the year so far. The Stranglers have always been a fine band - I first saw them (I think) 40 years ago on the 'No More Heroes' tour at Brunel University so the idea of appearing alongside them means a lot to me personally. From a band point of view it's obviously a great thing for us to be part of, and we're all really looking forward to a great tour. If you're going along then please come and say hello!

Flyer for the tour and the new single 'Kill The Pain'

Cheap TV Smith's Forgotten Band

In the late '80s/early '90s I spent much of my time pouring over chemistry text books and trying not to injure myself in the laboratories of Brunel University in Uxbridge. On a night either in 1989 or 1990 I was told that TV Smith was playing a gig down the road at The Angler's Retreat in West Drayton. I was familiar with The Adverts and their 'Crossing The Red Sea' album at that point, but realised that the chances of hearing any of that stuff was slim. Nevertheless, here was a bit of authentic British punk of a '77 vintage, so I was up for it.

TV was playing with his band Cheap on the night. It was low key but something clicked for me and I was bowled over by the sound and visual impact that the band and TV had on me (it is worth noting that TV is one for the high kick and it's fair to say that in comparison John Cooper Clarke has the pins of a rugby prop!).

This was the start of a period where Gunta and I saw Cheap as often as our resources would allow.

A typical night out with Cheap would run something like this. Enter a packed back room of a pub (looks promising), support band play an indie flavoured set to a receptive audience (this could be a good gig), support band pack up and take their gear and most of the audience with them out of the venue (large proportions of the audiences were invariably mates of the support bands and for whatever reason rarely stayed for the headline act). Cheap take to the stage to a handful of enthusiastic fans in a large empty room.... meanwhile Andy Peart continues to peddle his 'So What' fanzine with ever diminishing returns by the exit! And so it was at nearly every gig at which I saw them play, which was a real shame as they were very, very good.*

'That's me in the corner'

At The Bull & Gate, Kentish Town 1990

Here's a good example of a Cheap 'mosh pit'. Gunta and I offer our unconditional and uncoordinated support for the band at an AIDS awareness festival that took place at Fountains Mill in Uxbridge on 27th July 1990.

* They even got a 'Single of the Week' in UK music weekly 'Sounds' for the brilliant and unfortunately prophetic 'Third Term'. At the time there was some scurrilous talk of it being an inside job.... but I'm having none of it!

Flyer for 'Third Term'

Ok, so some music is in order. Here is a recording, again from Uxbridge, but one I was not at for some reason (although looking at the date, I was probably back in Sussex for Christmas). Thanks to the original uploader. I have retained this in MP3 format as per the download I have.

Uxbridge Football Club 22nd December 1990

MP3: https://rapidshare.com/files/3438134660/dge_Football_Club__Uxbridge_England_12-22-90.rar

01. Cheap
02. The Newshound
03. My String Will Snap
04. Luxury In Exile
05. Free World
06. Silicon Valley Holiday
07. Leisure Time
08. Ghosts
09. Buried By The Machine
10. Ready For The Axe To Drop
11. New Ways Are Best
12. 3rd Term
Playing that night as well were The Price, local lads playing music in much the same vein as Tim and Cheap. Leigh Heggarty from The Price is still very busy, working with a number of other bands and musicians (including TV  Smith), but most importantly right now (at least in my opinion) Ruts DC. Please take a look at Leigh's 'World of Guitars' blog and wonder at the lengths he will go to to avoid getting a normal job!

MP3: https://rapidshare.com/files/3635886464/ice_-_Uxbridge_FC__Uxbridge_England_12-22-90.rar

01. Between The Lines
02. Was It You
03. Audacity
04. Getting Us Nowhere
05. Close The Curtains
06. Standing In Your Way
07. Jodie
08. Too Many People
09. What About Love
10. Shattered Life
11. Changing Places
12. This One
13. You Say You Don't Love Me [Buzzcocks]
14. Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow [Shirelles]

As a footnote, it was at a Price reunion gig at the same 'Angler's Retreat' pub in 2008/9? that I was reacquainted with some old friends from my time in the Uxbridge/Hayes area... and happily, this time around we have been better at staying in touch...... The Price, bringing people together through punk rock!

The Price

The Angler's Retreat, West Drayton late '80s